canola planting seed insanity

[Hopperbin]

3153. 13.50/lb
5440. 13.00/lb
Minus 1.80 if not taking lumiderm.
No purchase here yet
Was thinking if can get lumiderm in the local drug store. Sounds familiar. Was it lubiderm?

[Hopperbin]

So what are the stats on agriville. Already lubed. Awaiting lubrication. Or just dont like it any more grow something else.

[Hopperbin]

I am firm on the dont like it any more. I may change my mind id canola drops 3 dollars per pound. Like that is going to happen.

One for dont like it any more.

[bgmb]

you are getting screwed on price shop around more.

[SASKFARMER3]

What their quoting is high. But yes they are for sure three dollars a lb. to high for what canola is trading for to sell.
The seed guys I deal with know I'm dropping acres because of seed costs by 2000 acres. Simply when they ask the price is to F&^%^king high for seed have a good day.

[JDGreen]

$11.60 for 5440, $12.10 for L252 With lumiderm. Also dropping acres 25-30% as its not worth the risk.

[bgmb]

you guys are at least a buck a lb high on those seed prices

[bgmb]

actually JD those are in the ballpark if they have lumiderm on them.

[bgmb]

lumiderm at 1.80/lb= 8 bucks an acre why would you do that, might as well spray everything with silencer/matador for 4 bucks an acre.

[freewheat]

Sticking to my usual 25% rotation. Offsetting canola input costs with more pulses, peas and faba.

Prices suck, but truly, what can we do? They got us... Can still make decent enough money at 9 bucks, if we get drier, more historical weather, and the associated more average yields.

Lots of other places to cut back on to help out a bit.

It is insane though. 1998 Invigor 2153 cost me 2.99 a lb, and actually performed back when liberty had some snap, and the genetics were IMO, honestly much better than now, other than lodging. Those plants used to pop out of the ground, and if you blinked you almost missed the cotyledon to ground cover stage. The stuff grew nuts. They lost that big advantage they used to have, IMO.

So yeah, we are paying 5 times the price for a poorer performing seed. Unless the weather was just that much better back in the drier years???

[bgmb]

I agree freeewheat We were paying 5 bucks a lb for 2573 in 2004, pulling off 40-50bu/ac and doing a way worse job of farming compared now to now and applying less fertilizer. I dont think todays genetics are worse but they certainly are not 30 percent better.

[freewheat]

bgmb, I agree as I think more about this. I think part of my issue has been weather for sure.

And yes to agronomy as well.

I will let you know this year. It is gunna be a superb weather year, let me tell you!

[mustardman]

Don't worry after the cons give the chem companies control of our cereal crops they will look after us and only charge a fair price. LOL

[bgmb]

Mustard, these companies need to be better compensated for supplying genetics derived from years of public research and breeding.

[Klause]

Down to 1 quarter of canola. Screw this stupidity.

That 1 quarter is booked to L252 right now. However, I may cancel it and go with Synergy.

13 a lb vs. 3.50... HMMMMMMM....


On this farm peas and oats have by far given us the best return... wheat next, canola last.

Problem with canola is you need 30 bu/ac for breakeven. Then you have a year like 2014 where you get 12 or 18...

Hopper, are you sure that price is right? if you book at the same place in Humboldt I did my price was better on the Liberty stuff I think.