The future looks good for seed companies

[tstep]

Right on SF3. Hed this same thought when the govt first talk about this. If this goes through we are screwed again. They have ****ed up canola, wheat will be next if this happens. Your right farmers are a dum bunch

[bgmb]

Hey, Lets hope Harpster calls an election tomorrow.

[farmaholic]

Okay enough running down "Producers". What do you propose "we" do when legislation is put in place to allow this to happen? Will we lose full control of wheat? I dread the thought of this and it will take afew years to evolve but I see it coming. There is one group you can thank for this. And don't give me that shit about "privilege". Privilege is not a RIGHT and can be revoked at any time. You guys ****ing bitched and moaned about the shackles of the CWB and "YOUR" PROPERTY RIGHTS, **** now all I hear is crickets from those same Foghorns...

[SASKFARMER3]

Start hitting them where it hurts the pocket book.
Why should we shoot for 60 where has that really got us.
Second ask for every single penny in check offs back. What the F$%k are these guys doing for us any way.
Drop all memberships in useless organizations that for some reason are not looking out for farmers interest but their own.
Stop buy and let some of the seed fert chem grain companies etc hear the truth.
Basically start opening up our mouths and telling these guys enough is enough.
Yesterday ran into two guys I went to the UofS with both in Seed and Chem side.
They said they know farmers are pissed but the higher ups don't get it.
Oh yea a bean counter will get it when we stop supporting them.

[Hopperbin]

The legislation will die if prime minister Harper calls an election, and the next government will have to re-start the process of approval, if it even chooses to do so.  Hansen said the bill will likely become law sometime in March, “touch wood.”

Are we talking march 2016? Definately will be an election issue. And next time they beg for money i will bring it up. 

[Hopperbin]

Is the next election set oct 19 yet?

[SASKFARMER3]

Ah good point on the asking for money for next election. Yes when you can explain how the new seed act benefits me I will cut you a check till then sorry have a nice day.

[mustardman]

Cancel your WCWGA membership Who Are for this and buy an NFU membership who are working to stop it.

[mustardman]

Phone ,email and talk to your MP who is more than likely conservative and straighten him out.

[ColevilleH2S]

If Canola research expenditures are $65B a year, and my figuring is correct that works out to around 8% of seed sales, or about $1/lb

[sawfly]

the whole thing is scary stuff.

the right to collect royalty at any point in the system is just laying the ground work for the future.

not a good one for producers or consumers.

we know with canola, that we have to sign contracts that we only get one crop from seed.
so even if a patent expired , you can not plant that seed, eg. old RR canola. it functionally becomes a forever patent.

now i think ,wheat ,peas whatever,
will follow the same path,
.
so even as they crow, you will not be restricted on planting your own seed, it's meaningless. because you will be contractually barred by the purchase contract. (just like canola)

so now you will plant your own seed,
and send them a check, or they collect at the elevator or port.
total control over an open pollinated crop.

( and who sets the port tariff,
why they do of course, that fee could be triple the seed fee.
so high that you are pretty well forced into buying their triple coated
dewormed super seed. because that's the only way they sell it.)

ah but we have public breeding and producer funded breeding to compete.
so we still have a choice.
and for now we do.

and how much of that choice is left in canola?
00000000000000000000000000000

now in this new world , with the opportunity to collect on every acre, every bushel, every year.

just steal the brains and staff from
public /producer competition.
and kill em dead, Harper would probably help that along.
just like he is doing with the cereals fungus research now.

once the big boys come in and lock
up the market. (like how come there is no 1$/ lb seed canola) it is all 5-7$, that seems odd , i wonder why?

the new ball game is now much worse , or better for them if you prefer.

because now if you get pissed enough at 8$
canola seed. at least you can grow lentils peas wheat, something else.

but not no more , they got it all wrapped up,
either you pay 80$-100/acre for canola or
50$-100 for wheat peas whatever they see fit.

absolutely , property rights should be respected. innovation rewarded.

but patents have to expire , to promote innovation.
with free access to off patent seeds or anything else.
a free market will place an appropriate value, and encourage the innovations.

what we are building now is pure extortion , and kills innovation.

why find something new when you can charge forever for the same old crap.

good thing Harper was not around
when insulin was discovered.
the poor diabetics would still be paying 2,000$ / month for their shots

[SASKFARMER3]

couldn't have said it any better.
Patents must end so innovation can continue.
Canola is prime example the shit now is no different than the shit of yesterday. Just repackage and boom 12 dollar seed. Then when they do F$%K up like the L150 seed lot the farmer is given F$%kall back for the screw up and life goes on.
WAKE UP FARMERS THIS ISNT GOING TO HELP YOU!