Competition

[mbratrud]

Braveheart. We have competition I agree, I have Viterra, P&H and Richardson and 200,000 tonne worth of handling facilties within 8 miles of my farm. The Margins have been huge in the last 2 years and I would like some ownership in that. Also the farm needs there voice in the industry.

Bucket I agree 100% we don't need concrete we need loading facilties. Farmers invest in localized cleaning and conditioning facilties, moved to centralized loading hubs.

[bgmb]

Braveheart,

Grain cos buying wheat for june delivery can easily lock in a $1.00-1.50 margin. Which is more margin than most farms will make at these prices.

[bucket]

Mbratrud

Just to look back one more time. It seems some of the current elevators were not told when bring built to plan for 112 car spots.

That has to be clarified in advance so that any new points are not penalized decades later.

There are plenty of places 175 car spots could be built in a better and more efficient plan than the current model.

Graincos could easily be left in the past with a couple key locations.

Hate bringing these guys into this but the cwb completely blew the opportunity.

[grassfarmer]

"The free market is a myth. Everybody knows that. Just very few people say it. If you're in the position like I am and do business all over the world, and if I'm not smart enough to know there's no free market, I ought to be fired…..You can't have farming on a total laissez-faire system because the sellers are too weak and the buyers are too strong"

A quote from Dwayne Andreas former CEO of Archer Daniels Midland.

So if people in positions like this admit and acknowledge their unfair market advantage and even suggest you can't have farming continue on such a basis how come some farmers can't see or claim not to see any problem with a "free market"?

[fjlip]

X2 Grass, sure as hell looks like it.
"It seems against their religion for many farmers to work together." ....is the f*ing problem!
We will NEVER change, live with it or exit, only two choices.!

[CptnObvious]

fjlip, are you exasperated with the situation and giving up on changing the minds of others; or are you proudly claiming to be part of the problem?

[Braveheart]

Grassfarmer, the last time I was in a room with Dwayne Andreas, other people (at a reception) were teasingly asking him for tips on how to corner the CBOT soybean market, which ADM had tried and failed at. He left early.

Sometimes ex, with emphasis on the ex, CEOs say things to promote the book they're writing or set up their speaking tour.

That said, look for your own unfair advantage. If you think you don't have one you're not looking in the right place.

[farmaholic]

I want to defend fjlip. Here is part of his quote that was too good to let die.

"...but age and time wears down the enthusiasm of youth with large doses of reality."

Do you think someone who is near retirement and fought the good fight his whole career should have to carry the stone much longer???

Competition, give me a ****ing break. There are some fundamental problems in Ag in Western Canada. Words like collusion, gouging, loansharking, extortion come to mind. Kind of like organized crime.

Pass the Vodka...

[CptnObvious]

Hmmmmm. I don't drink......so I guess I fight.

[Hopalong]

Seem to remember WIT getting bailed out a couple of times by government and wheat board.
Think same thing happened decades earlier with pools.
Farmers of today don't have political power that we did when fifty per cent of workforce was agriculture.
Think union type activity is a thing of the past and we are more like other small business entrepreneurs.
Maybe time to change our thinking.

[Braveheart]

That's good CaptObvious, stay off the hooch. It destroys brain cells. You wouldn't be a genius anymore.

[wmoebis]

Booze takes weakest cells first so the more you drink the smarter you get. Just visit the bar after 10pm and see for yourself.

[mbratrud]

In the words of Winnie the Pooh. Oh bother...

[farmaholic]

But this is Fruity Drink Friday...

Captain, drinking can make you even more prone to fighting. It may help your cause.

Cheers, where is Tom?

[sk_wheatking]

Wow! That visiting the bar after 10pm one is going to go down as an agriville classic wmoebis! You really hammered captain crunch with that gem...lol. (why can't I think of shit like that..Bwahahahaha)