Time to shut the news Off! One report dry one wet same day!

[Guest]

Yea its to bad , this site has a lot of potential , whats wrong with creating a real farmer organization by farmers that would look after our interests ?? Just like it has been mentioned on here. Hire lawyers , lobbyists , marketing people , etc. .Can you imagine how much money this lobby group would represent , this is huge . Instead, we keep whining, arguing , fighting and staying separated , which is exactly what all these companies want and need to carry on their game. I sure wouldn't mind a check off going into that instead of the shit were getting now for our check-off money . The problems are well known. Instead of reading same thing every day . Bucket brought the exchange BS to light long ago , someone tried to explain it and BTO made the best , simplest explanation there ever could be of how were getting screwed . Anyone that can't understand that doesn't want to . There are no other explanations or experts that can explain it any better . Yet it keeps coming up over and over without anything being done. What would be wrong with starting a solution right here ???? Anyone have any ideas how something like this could be started ?? We are wasting a real valuable resource here as far as I'm concerned.

[farmaholic]

Whats posted on this site is what keeps me coming back. As frustrating as it is....

[SASKFARMER3]

Case yesterday I posted about it and not one expert. Trust me their on here watching and listening and posting.
Not one gave a explanation on the exchange rate.
Because the Markets don't work and wont till a bunch of shit is put in place. Ritz failed and failed miserably but he doesn't care since its retirement 101 for him. Then a board seat with some Grain or chem or fert board.
But the Farmlink guy tried on a diffent area to give his side. But still no one can answer that question or better put don't want to.
We have useless organizations that take money for check offs, get fed money and do shit all for the farmers that their suppose to represent.
Yes Us farmers are to blame also for not sitting or running for these boards and pushing out the guys who are their just for a check, a dinner and a free night in the big city.
Problem I find is I'm ready to quit and its the young who need to get on these boards and take charge. Not sit on these boards and Shake their heads like the Bobble heads I buy in USA.
Maybe I failed farmers and so many of us did by not speaking up sooner and doing some thing. Rallies are no good they just make a headline and you get lip service and studies. That's all they do.
I don't know the answer but I know the problem and its huge.
Then today I read we should watch our costs of production more this year than any other. WTF.
Fert Up no fault of ours.
Seed up no fault of ours.
Every thing is up because ok Ill pick one its the Dollar. HA HA.
Yet this genius is talking watching our costs.
Keep us broke and they run the show.
Ah Farming.

[binthere]

oh the memories. late sixties early seventies. operation lift. paid to summerfallow. holy crap less production prices rise. hmm i remember thinking what we could do without cwb and maybe have farmer formed cartel. im to old and tired now.

[Hopalong]

Keep hearing on this site that if we only banded together more as farmers, it would answer our problems.
Suggest it is more likely that we will continue to go away from union and co-operative activity based on social values which supported establishment of pools and co-ops.
Means more of a business competitive than a brother's keeper attitude.
Not saying either is good or bad, just what I see coming.

[hobbyfrmr]

About 8 or 9 years ago, there was a company called FarmCorp. They were into block marketing grain. Kind of a consolidation company so big and small farmers could collectively sell a large volume block of grain. Similar to the CWB in many ways, but possibly more agile.
I had just left the conventional farming, so I did not learn the nuts and bolts of it very well.
I think mow they are called Virtex, they bought a non GMO canola crush plant in Saskatoon.
My neighbour farms 4500 acres and he sold all his grains through them for a couple of years. He was satisfied and described several advantages. Like booking semis, and some financial gains which are anecdotal, but he is fairly honest and I believed it.
Naturally, my neighbours only negative perception was that farmers can't work together, so the big farming neighbours did not sell to farmcorp because they were already negotiating their own large volume sales of grain, input purchases and they are doing just fine, thank you very much.
Because it has already been done by farmcorp, and they are still active, I think it would not take much effort to go back to this marketing concept. They have already learned from past experience, the rest is mostly farmers willing to grade their own inventory and volunteer their grain to be sold through the farm crop/virtex grain entity.
I think FNA also was selling peas and lentils in this manner around the same timeline. Same thing, I not sure of the nuts and bolts from that entity at the time.
Just some thoughts, most grain councils, and associations seem to be more favourable to the input and purchase companies as described above. I have not heard anything from APASS in a long time. The last I remember there was infighting amongst themselves and the leaders so I got disgusted with them and tuned out. That was a long time ago and I am out of touch with reality. It seems like APASS is funded by a little pinch from our property taxes.
So, if farmers are actually willing, and don't just say they are willing on An Internet forum, the Farmcorp entity is still around and they were functional, I don't think we have to re invent the wheel. Farmers now know what needs modifying,

[sawfly]

the pools and coops have their flaws.
but at least farmers were somewhat in the game.
grades loaded on ships, grades purchased at primary elevators. should be reported.
right now we know nothing.
it would be the easiest way to see if grading system was actually working honestly.
but you never know., they could sell
it as a 3 even if they got paid for a 2.

it is not their grain , they do not care what it's called, as long as they get the money.

want to bet that it will be classed as propitiatory business info , and we will never see it.

keep us in the dark

[kernel]

The USA has a wheat commission that fights for all their marketing problems. Western Canada has three wheat and canola commissions that seem content doing crop research and writing a few articles on farming. I thinking we have the organization with the six provincial commimissions working together getting the people needed to fix our marketing and grading problems. We have the commissions lets make them work for us.

[bucket]

We also have hermanson at the head of cgc that knew of last year's problems back in 1997. He and ritz have been at the helm long enough to prevent the shit from happening again but they are resigned to study it again. And provide the funding.

They would argue the faults of the cwb and now that the graincos are doing exactly the same thing it's worth studying?

Mindless brain dead ****s.

[Guest]

i agree , all these commissions are useless that we have . talked to canola council at farm show . asked him why we need more canola for ??? he basically told me that i was misinformed and that we need more bushels to compete. told him we can't afford to grow the shit anymore ? need to scrap the whole works and start over with people working for us with our money , not working for chem co's with our money