Time to shut the news Off! One report dry one wet same day!

[hobbyfrmr]

About 8 or 9 years ago, there was a company called FarmCorp. They were into block marketing grain. Kind of a consolidation company so big and small farmers could collectively sell a large volume block of grain. Similar to the CWB in many ways, but possibly more agile.
I had just left the conventional farming, so I did not learn the nuts and bolts of it very well.
I think mow they are called Virtex, they bought a non GMO canola crush plant in Saskatoon.
My neighbour farms 4500 acres and he sold all his grains through them for a couple of years. He was satisfied and described several advantages. Like booking semis, and some financial gains which are anecdotal, but he is fairly honest and I believed it.
Naturally, my neighbours only negative perception was that farmers can't work together, so the big farming neighbours did not sell to farmcorp because they were already negotiating their own large volume sales of grain, input purchases and they are doing just fine, thank you very much.
Because it has already been done by farmcorp, and they are still active, I think it would not take much effort to go back to this marketing concept. They have already learned from past experience, the rest is mostly farmers willing to grade their own inventory and volunteer their grain to be sold through the farm crop/virtex grain entity.
I think FNA also was selling peas and lentils in this manner around the same timeline. Same thing, I not sure of the nuts and bolts from that entity at the time.
Just some thoughts, most grain councils, and associations seem to be more favourable to the input and purchase companies as described above. I have not heard anything from APASS in a long time. The last I remember there was infighting amongst themselves and the leaders so I got disgusted with them and tuned out. That was a long time ago and I am out of touch with reality. It seems like APASS is funded by a little pinch from our property taxes.
So, if farmers are actually willing, and don't just say they are willing on An Internet forum, the Farmcorp entity is still around and they were functional, I don't think we have to re invent the wheel. Farmers now know what needs modifying,

[sawfly]

the pools and coops have their flaws.
but at least farmers were somewhat in the game.
grades loaded on ships, grades purchased at primary elevators. should be reported.
right now we know nothing.
it would be the easiest way to see if grading system was actually working honestly.
but you never know., they could sell
it as a 3 even if they got paid for a 2.

it is not their grain , they do not care what it's called, as long as they get the money.

want to bet that it will be classed as propitiatory business info , and we will never see it.

keep us in the dark

[kernel]

The USA has a wheat commission that fights for all their marketing problems. Western Canada has three wheat and canola commissions that seem content doing crop research and writing a few articles on farming. I thinking we have the organization with the six provincial commimissions working together getting the people needed to fix our marketing and grading problems. We have the commissions lets make them work for us.

[bucket]

We also have hermanson at the head of cgc that knew of last year's problems back in 1997. He and ritz have been at the helm long enough to prevent the shit from happening again but they are resigned to study it again. And provide the funding.

They would argue the faults of the cwb and now that the graincos are doing exactly the same thing it's worth studying?

Mindless brain dead ****s.

[Guest]

i agree , all these commissions are useless that we have . talked to canola council at farm show . asked him why we need more canola for ??? he basically told me that i was misinformed and that we need more bushels to compete. told him we can't afford to grow the shit anymore ? need to scrap the whole works and start over with people working for us with our money , not working for chem co's with our money

[Horse]

As I predicted the WORM has turned and I believe you are covertly ,saying you miss the CWB mabey you should have tryed to fix it but no you all thought you were brighter and smarter so now enjoy your marketing advantage. HA HA
I am too old and tired to care anymore so enjoy watching the mess created by ending the CWB without a plan in place.

[samhill]

Many things take time to adjust, but a good thing is a good thing, and always many variables. Good riddance CWB.

[bucket]

No I don't miss the cwb but it's the same ****ing bullshit of misrepresented basis ad price.

For Christ sakes we are at an 80 cent dollar. The railways are prepaid and they can't charge us in usd. Although I think they could talk ritz into it.

[Integrity_Farmer]

Like the CWB or hate the CWB the fact remains farmers are loosing Billion on their wheat.
5 dollar a bushel wheat with a 80 cent dollar give me a break
People are unlikely to admit they were on the wrong side but the pain and anger they express indicates that they were wrong on the CWB.
Here is a chart prepared by the Canadian Wheat Board Alliance that show that farmers are receiving only 40% of the Vancouver price where in the past with the CWB in place farmers received about 90% of the Vancouver price
http://www.cwbafacts.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Grain-Companies-take-excess-profits-CONTEXT1.pdf

The loss of the farmer elected, single desk Canadian Wheat Board has resulted in an increasingly dysfunctional rail system, no grain logistics oversight, a loss of transport efficiency on rail and at sea, reduced grain quality guarantees to other nations, and an overall yearly loss of billions of dollars in income to farmers which has had a devastating impact on the rural Manitoban economy. The ending of the CWB marketing system has resulted in the loss of 460 direct good quality jobs in the heart of Winnipeg and a further 1,834 full-time equivalent jobs that were sustained by the CWB’s administrative expenditures.

[greybeard]

I don't think US/Can systems are structured at all similar.
When you go across the line, who actually owns those delivery points?
It appears to me they went through this many years ago and have enuff small locals to make the muti-nationals anti up if they want the business.
Reminds me of the big squeeze when BSE hit cattle guys. Take it or leave it,but the "boarder" is still a choke point.

[Braveheart]

Most of the co-op elevators in ND are aligned with Harvest States. Without their clout it would be hard to operate.

[JDGreen]

good riddance CWB.. Only ones that miss em round these parts are in Arizona scratchin their arses all winter..

[silverback]

You can shove that cwb crap you know where Integrity.

The board was in it for themselves and their buddies pulling the strings of govt. There is never justification to forcibly confiscate private property.

May it never come to pass that government control of western farmers happen like that again.