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    How stupid are Canadian Farmers

    Apparently we need to hurry and buy... fertilizer is going up up up.


    Bryce over at farm futures puts together an excellent weekly report on fertilizer.


    Unprofitable new crop prices continue to keep fertilizer markets quiet, both in the U.S. and around the world. While the strong dollar makes products more expensive overseas, U.S. growers are watching futures prices to see if crop insurance will provide any protection for their investment in N, P and K.

    Ammonia prices eased $5 on average last week on retail markets, with some dealers cutting costs as they restock following a big drop in wholesale prices. The index used to settle swaps at the Gulf fell another $45 for February contracts, on top of a $100 drop in January. At just under $450 a ton the Gulf price translates into an average retail price of $620, $60 below the average this week. Terminals have been slower to cut costs, keeping retail prices higher. Falling corn acreage in 2015 and shifting application patterns create potential for lower costs, but dealers remain wary about keeping excess supply on hand. Costs in Illinois and Iowa are running $685 to $700, with dealers on the Plains typically $640 to $665.

    Urea prices also have a softer tone this week, with Gulf swaps moving lower on news India bought less than expected from China in its latest round of deals at prices that show plenty of product is available. That drop comes on top of a break of around $11.50 last week, taking the Gulf price down to $316.50 a ton. More imports are set to arrive in the U.S., which could knock another $25 off average retail costs of $457 this week. Some Illinois dealers are already there, while Plains dealers are typically $410 to $450 right now. Swaps continue to point to a price break into summer of $20 to $25 a ton.

    UAN remains the firmest leg of the nitrogen market, after farmers applied less nitrogen last fall and seek to cut costs by using less and putting it down later. Swaps at the Gulf for 32% were steady at $267.50, with contracts for spring and early summer $5 less. Retail costs were 50 cents higher for 28% at just over $317, which is actually cheap compared to traditional margins in the wholesale market.

    Phosphates were firm last week, with problems shipping product out of North Africa offset by ideas China will be a willing seller. India hasn't done much buying this year, as its subsidy program remains unsettled, keeping the market on guard for surprises. Costs at the Gulf edged $2.50 a ton higher to $442.50 for DAP, with swaps into spring and summer only slightly lower. Those prices translate into fair value of around $550, which was only $6 lower than this week's average retail price of $556. Retail prices that are changing seem to be moving a little higher, though they're in the $530 to $560 range.

    Potash prices eased a little last week. Terminal prices lost $2.50 in the Midwest to $402.50, with the average retail cost at $485, down a buck. Retailers changing prices seem to be in the $475 to $485 range, with the market fairly valued right now. There potential for a drop maybe to $440 by spring if farmers decide to cut costs by skimping on K. International buyers are still waiting for China to finalize prices for its next round of imports.

    Download the complete report, which includes detailed charts and forecasts for ammonia, urea, UAN, phosphates and potash, using the link below.

    Senior Editor Bryce Knorr first joined Farm FuturesMagazine in 1987. In addition to analyzing and writing about the commodity markets, he is a former futures introducing broker and is a registered Commodity Trading Advisor. He conducts Farm Futures exclusive surveys on acreage, production and farm management issues and is one of the analysts regularly contracted by business wire services before major USDA crop reports. Besides the Morning Call on www.FarmFutures.com he writes weekly reviews for corn, soybeans, and wheat that include selling price targets, charts and seasonal trends. His other weekly reviews on basis, energy, fertilizer and financial markets and feature price forecasts for key farm crop inputs. A journalist with 38 years of experience, he received the Master Writers Award from the American Agricultural Editors Association.

    #2
    Yep just look at Durum prices/offers $10.03 today $5.86 next fall. Red Lentils $19.73 today $14.29 next fall.

    Guess they are saying don't bother planting. Or are they saying buy more fert so you produce more to sell cheaper?

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      #3
      Buy Buy Buy!
      Fert is a prime example how a few control our costs! They are created a shortage! Thus price up! 450 now 725 to 750!
      Buy buy buy!
      Till some one gets some balls and calls this new monopolys illegal were hooped!
      Have a great day!

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        #4
        I would like to be the fly on the wall when your negotiating this years fertilizer needs:
        Klause: I need some cheep fertilizer.
        Dealer:laughs,we have none of that.
        Klause:frowns,but i really need some my supply. from China showed up in a solid block.
        Dealer:laughs louder,sorry Klause Hopper bought all we could get I think you should talk to him if you want some.
        Klauselease immmm Desperate!
        Dealeroints to the door,looks like your going organic this year.
        Klause:I tried that in Manitoba but the weeds got too bad and the neighbours ran us out.
        Dealer:Im sure Hopper will rent your land.
        Klause:he will find out i have QUACKGRASS and THISSLE.
        Dealer:not my problem Klause.
        Klause leaves, story to be continued.

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          #5
          Old crop red lentils bid solid at 37 cents...with trades up to 40...New crop bid 27 cents...Last year 20 cents. ..

          37 cents = 22.20/bu
          40 cents = 24.00/bu
          27 cents = 16.20/bu

          Export offers old crop reds reflective of 50 cents back to the farm

          Don't get picked off...

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            #6
            Organic is overrated, lots of weeds to manage, lower yeilds. The neighbors are definitely insulted and upset as they are buying fert and spray doing their very best to grow and harvest the cleanest highest yeilding crop as efficiently as they can in order to feed the world.
            Why a farmer wouldn't want the most weed free, highest yeilding crop to feed the world, I will never know. You need to fertilize and spray or you won't get the chance at that kind of crop.

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              #7
              The low Dollar isnt helping fertilizer prices. Are they lower in the States? I dont think so, probably higher. Time to buy was in the fall before Christmas like most years.

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                #8
                Larry where can you get .27 reds with AOG?

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                  #9
                  We are not heading for a shortage

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                    #10
                    Breadwinner : unlike like the ultra high quality dry fert farmers had delivered the last two years from local dealers that had to be cut out of bins .
                    2 sides to every story

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                      #11
                      bread winer, you are either a dealer or one has you over a barrel with lube out and you like it. Klause will be 1 of the few who make it as a startup farmer. you sound like the type who will piss away grandpas farm. Klause, keep posting your aggressive ideas

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                        #12
                        Exactly... The powder we had last year that bridged in the air cart.... the urea that came with chunks 4" in diameter that we had to screen before being able to run it...
                        Oh wait.... you can buy a 6,000 gizmo to crush it up so you can use it.



                        We already positioned liquid for spring. Hard for us to pre buy blends because we run a different one for every crop, sometimes different fields of the same crop.


                        If everyone keeps falling for the pre buy in fall bullshit guess what... soon we will be storing 2 or 3 crops in our bins, and 2 or 3 years worth of fertilizer, and the guys doing this will consider themselves to be "smart".


                        We are shipping wheat and oats south again soon... and bringing urea and phos back... Guess what... buying it in USD with the USD we get from the grain so no forex issues.

                        $400 a tonne urea in USD is 550 CAD a MT.

                        Wheat at 6.33 a bu USD works out to 7.93 a bu.

                        That means 69 bushels of wheat buys a tonne of urea.

                        soooo buying power now.

                        local elevator, local N bids:

                        N: 650 a tonne
                        13.5 #2 CWRS $5.10 a bu.

                        127 bushels of wheat buys a tonne of N.



                        Let's recap:

                        LOCAL: 127bu of HRS........................ 1 tonne of urea
                        US market: 69bu of HRS..................... 1 tonne of urea

                        That works out to a difference of 58 bushels of wheat... even computed in local dollars that's a difference of $295.80


                        We are our own worst enemy because a lot of us can't do simple math!!!

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                          #13
                          Sorry, that should be 400 a ton not a tonne.


                          Also to clarify, I have no issues pre buying... and covering it with pre sales... but having said that there were no real deals this fall either... Lowest here was 510 a tonne and wheat at the time 4.70 a bushel.

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                            #14
                            50 cents/lb old crop reds worked back to farm? Sorry, I haven't posted as much on here, get tired of the rhetoric. But Larry's comment is so radically full of bullshit it is not even funny. Base processing and 38 cents per pound is hardly tradeable. New crop reds are pulling back and demand is softening. But why let realities of the market get in the way of analysis.

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                              #15
                              dave, wanna email me some time? wondering if you are buying peas or had a bid out there ;P Always like doing business with people I (at least sorta) know.

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