Gustgd

[gustgd]

Deregistered (maybe wrong phrase) varieties in wheat go back to crown. Sometime varieties are pulled on account of quality or disease package. Watch for varieties Lillian, Harvest, or Unity on account of gluten streangth.
Every variety is being checked how it is holding up to fusarium.
Will low performers fail on account of farmers not buying low agronomic performers. Or buyers tightening buying specs?

[bucket]

But when the buyers of crops are also the seed sales guys and they also get to write the spec we are in a heap of trouble.

They might of sold you seed but if their market says they don't want it come fall where are you going to sell that new variety?

I think Lillian was develop for sawfly resistance. Why were the forward thinkers not including the gluten issue as part of their package?

De-register it, then what flush it out until sawfly becomes a problem again? Then a seed company buys it renames it and presto 70 buck seed?

[gustgd]

Bucket I think that Canadian farmers will always be able to sell whatever they want. But at what price?

I don't know if you work towards anything as far as quality or markets on anywhere other than agriville. You have been saying we should work towards a system where farmers are paid on a spec basis. Different specifications will be paid a different price. Likely IP programs where you will sign a contract to follow a recipe to deliver into a program. Think hogs or chickens delivering to a plant.

Alternatively you can grow a commodity, bulk handling,grow cheaper than your neighbours.
If your grain doesn't meet a spec keep shopping it around until you find market convergence.

FYI seed sellers and buyers are part of the registration process

[bucket]

Gust

Not arguing here. Just pointing out some what ifs.

Use the Syngenta corn **** up with China. The seed was sold to farmers, when China didn't accept it - who ultimately paid the price? Every farmer whether he grew it or not.

Same with the triffid flax issue? Ultimately farmers took the hit.

If the government regulated that so if something like that happened in the future and the entity responsible held to account it might be more palatable.

Somehow I doubt those safeguards will not be put in place.

[bucket]

Correction

I doubt those safeguards will be put in place.

[Guest]

triffid flax , shit we are still taking a hit every year and probably will for the rest of our lives . and people are growing $29/bu cert seed and still have to send in $250 triffid donation every year , what a $&$@&$ joke .