Religious difference

[rkaiser]

If nephew Stevey gets his way, Canada will be like his Uncle Sam very soon.

http://www.nationofchange.org/2015/02/08/war-69%C2%A2-tax-dollars-goes/

[farmaholic]

I am responsible for my own actions and choices...

[parsley]

I note that you avoided addressing the doctrine itself, rkaiser. What the legislation actually says. What Islamists are actually required to follow.

Morality forms the basis for this discussion.

Do you consider the three requirements I listed as moral?

I think that is an important question.

You see, rkaiser , if we cannot agree upon the morality of the tenets of the doctrine, we may as well end the discussion, because we simply will never agree.

So I shall pose them to you again:

1. Is killing apostates moral? .

2. Is killing infidels and atheists moral?

3. I honour killing moral?

I would appreciate a simple yes or no for each question

And don't bother playing the race card again. It's intellectually immature.

Parsley

[freewheat]

Neither side is worse, Kaiser? Are you serious? Surely you jest with us...

When I see those Balgonie Baptists cutting off muslims heads, I will have to rethink it...

[rkaiser]

All killing is immoral pars.

All killing is the same farmaholic.

The neocon "hero's" blew the heads off more children in Iraq than you could shake a crucifix at farmaholic. Better get your camera crew out and head over when the shit hits the fan with American built bombs after the next Fox movie clip. I hear stevey okayed a big weapons contract in Ontario lately. Any word on that pars?

[parsley]

If you call those three tenets immoral, then you should condemn them. You have a moral obligation to speak out against them, rkaiser.

A moral guide that teaches killing should not be ignored, either.

There are no other major religions in the world, in 2015, that legally require their congregations to kill. I'm not referring to self-defense, either.

Where is your moral outrage? Parsley

[farmaholic]

Re-read my last post with the exclamation icon. Was it was so poorly written that you couldn't pick up the pointlessness of how I see things and see them evolving or are you only in a fighting mood, seeing as red and swinging?

[parsley]

I disagree all that killing is not moral. I have a right to defend myself, my family, or my children from someone who tries tries to kill me. Parsley.

[rkaiser]

whoops sorry "f" guy. I mistaked you for the other "f" guy. Have a good "f" in sleep and dream of peace and flowers in pars's back yard.

I will leave you with my belief that all killing is immoral pars; and leave the condemnin up to you. And try to shoot for the belly if some terrorist comes after you in your nightmares tonight. You can always send em to gitmo for a good torture session with Chaney and Bush after he recovers.

And please you guys --- don't draw me into this ridiculous conversation again tomorrow....LOL

[parsley]

You have a point, Freewheat.

Israel.

Devout Islamists are obligated, from their moral holy book and their law, to wipe Jews off the face of the earth. Decimate them.

Do the Jews have a right to defend themselves? Do they have a right to retaliate-kill, in order to survive?

And who stands on morally-defensive ground.. The aggressors or the defenders, Freewheat ?

Tis a question the West must deal with. As infidels, do we sit back and allow ourselves and out friends to be killed, or do we fight back?

And do we have a sound moral argument to make by killing out attackers?

The question to answer is whether or not killing in the name of self-defence is morally acceptable.

You can't have it both ways, rkaiser. Do you support the aggressor or the defender? Parsley

[parsley]

You retreat because you cannot defend your position, rkaiser. Sleep well. Parsley.

[rkaiser]

Fair enough pars.... You win....LOL

shot though the heart - and your to blame -- you give love --- a bad name.

[farmaholic]

Maybe we can pick this up tomorrow with the unanswerable question of, "who started it"?

Since there seems to be no peaceful solution....

Good grief!

[sumdumguy]

Where religion is involved even Sumdumguy won't go because it is a no-win. I went to church yesterday and the whole service was about honouring the black races and their quest for equally amongst us terrible whites. My 90 year old mother said don't bother taking her to church anymore. Go figure!

[farmaholic]

A serious problem on both sides of the battle is a lack of empathy.