CP Strike

[Guest]

well , i think the conservatives have already lost lots of seats in sask and alta , and i have never voted anything but conservative

[Hopperbin]

Personally harper would likely do the party a favour if he stepped down and let someone else in before election. Too late for that. I still dont like the competition. The public would sure like more info on details of this strike. I feel we only get 1 percent of the info. That other 99 should be availl to everyone. Cn cpr railroads may have that info tied up making media afraid to report. Or the two sides dont want the info out so they both shut up. You dont put safety workers on strike when your issue is safety. Now the union needs a kick in the ass for that one. Immagine the class action on that if things go bad with accidents.

[Oliver88]

Glad to see the government ordered the workers back to work.

The Unifor union is in bed with the NDP/Liberals so it would be interesting to hear their response.

[MBgrower]

At least the cons force them back to work. Ndp and trudeau would side with the striking workers.

[bucket]

Mbgrower

Explain your logic.

Farmers are at the bottom of moving anything by rail.

So it's ok to legislate workers back to work but it's not ok to force management to ensure grain movement?

Grain orders are behind 12000 cars and yet not a peep from this government.

Montreal commuters can't make it to work and back to work legislation within minutes of the strike.

Seems hypocritical?

[bucket]

Open rights legislation would have been the smarter play here.

[freewheat]

So to some, it seems the answer is the socialist/communist policy of forcing companies to perform?

Do we think as farmers, that suddenly we are going to be top of the list?

Again I must ask: Why are we growing stuff that ensures reliance on rail companies, government policy, and grain companies?

Bottom line: Is expecting a conservative government to enact communist policy normal?

But no. We must farm uncle Herberts land at whatever cost, so we can make it produce, cuz uncle Herbert has only been getting 30 bushel wheat, which is wasteful. We must take it over, at 80 bucks an acre, before John down the road gets his hands on it, so we can grow 70 bushel wheat with all the inputs in the world. And by gum, the railways must cater to us because of it, because they have to, they just do.

We need more uncle Herberts, IMO. And we need to make some changes ourselves.

Remember that old definition of idiot?
Doing the same thing, over and over, and expecting the same results...

Yup, let us all vote Trudeau or Mulcair. That MUST be the answer, huh?

Yes, I am sick and tired of this. Yes I think the railways and grain companies suck. But I am not expecting socialist principles to save the day. I am changing how I farm, to bi-pass this farce.

It is up to me, not them, to make my farm prosper. There are options.

End of rant for the day.

[freewheat]

Different results, sorry! lol

[bucket]

Freewheat

So then why legislate the workers back for Montreal commuters.

I get what you are saying and really can't argue your logic.

Except

If the government is doing this for Montreal commuters then they should also do it for grain movement as well. And just as quickly.

Otherwise they should sit on there hands like they have for western farmers.

Let people in Montreal be inconvenienced for a while as well.

[bucket]

This isn't socialist thinking.

But the management of the railways have adapted a monopolistic way of business - essentially take it or leave it.

They have ****ed this country so bad of the last decades most don't understand it.

Reduced track capacity to bottleneck exports greatly affect a country's economy.

Pushed freight onto the public highway system at an astronomical cost for now and well into the future.

By doing the above they also created a bigger problem with exhausts and the environment. Also affects the economy.

I think some are starting to see the dots connecting.