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    #31
    Case IH , that is correct.
    Tweety I did finally read it. It's a total spin.
    Attention Farmers...the population is losing regard for you, not us, so we will help you to speak up, and encourage the public so you can still pay to use our technology and not be so lowly regarded by your real customers with real money.
    It's not me....its you.
    Help us....help you.
    I don't know the term, but it's like in an abusive marriage.
    When a person is looking at it from a neutral/non dependant position, It's really quite brilliant.

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      #32
      “Farmers are the villains in climate change and obesity,” he said about how producers are being cast by popular media and public discourse in social media and other internet mediums.

      “The same people who want the latest iPhone would have their food produced with a team of mules,” said Blome.

      It is up to farmers to engage with consumers, food writers and government, he said.

      End quote:

      Do you want to go back to not having biotechnology? Stroke of the pen, its all gone, pesticides, biotech, fertilizer. This isn't about Bayer! Its about the conventional ag industry.

      In all forms of social media, you, yes you caseih are the destroyer of everything good, you alone are the reason people are fat, you don't care how much you douse crops with harmful toxic dangerous chemicals. You destroy the land with your big machinery and nitrates and phosphates.

      You are pure evil caseih, in the world of social media.

      how can you not see this????? Follow the @theFoodBabe, Mercola, Whole Foods, @GMOFree, @NoGMO..... See for yourself how you are scum of the earth and you don't care about peoples health or anything except profit.

      This is NOT about Bayer.

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        #33
        Piss and moan all you want but our farm is a lot better off than it was 15 years ago.

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          #34
          I have a call into ks potash to see if they would entertain sending potash out and bringing nitrogen or Phos back.

          They are out of Canpotex and have their own facilities and cars.

          Hope someone runs with the idea. And partners with them.

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            #35
            crusher - going into the next three years you may think different. It has been a good ride the past 5 years for some, but if things go south for you - even a bit- your attitude will change very quickly - that is what is happening in many areas to many farms. Although things may have been good, the high risk involved is taking it's toll when even a few things go south - no one is immune , and to think different is foolish.

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              #36
              hobby , it's called co-dependency , and yes I fear we fit the term well ! lol

              tweety, just curious , do you farm ? and if you do , doesn't it bother you that you are spending $60 K per quarter to grow canola with a decent crop averaging around $64k , $4k , left for your risk and work ?? if ALL GOES WELL ?

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                #37
                Perhaps ask that question in another topic. What seriously bothers me is how you can think this article isn't about the social media attack funded by large organic companies to market their food at the expense of lies about conventional Ag. What the fear is that drive changing public perception of what we do and senselessly banning products.

                Even if Canada went all non crop input, do u really think what your net would go up? Companies would simply import and you'd still be screwed. If you can't make money in today's Ag environment, you better change what you are doing because something is drastically wrong with your operation.

                Having the public hate what we do falsely will not help you or anyone involved in conventional Ag. That is what the article is talking about. Public perception.

                I conventional farm in central sask about 2000 acres and grow 5 or 6 different crops with a 5 year rotation. With that and other techniques like under 100$ per acre capital, I dramatically reduce input costs and definitely enjoy a healthy ROI.

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                  #38
                  tweety

                  I don't think anyone else read the article. It is about social license - a pretty hot topic these days. My definition is the trust society has in farmers that allows them to make management decisions about their business based on their agronomic and financial needs without regulation/societal oversight.

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                    #39
                    thanks tweety, kinda same as what we do. we are growing a lot of different crops and doing well with it . i agree 100% with your point , just that it is so hypocritical coming from bayer, of all companies. and it just pisses me off, that they expect so much from us, and raising seed prices in this environment shows their lack of respect for farmers. and the illusion everyone is creating that the world will run out of food , is simply a way to keep us running . also somewhere deep in the back of my mind , i am wondering if we should be farming the way we are ??

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                      #40
                      Very hot topic charlie, yes indeed. And people claim to be 'smart' about food and food production but have a phd in Google filled with misinformation and marketing manipulation.

                      It can only be bad for farming, farmers, and conventional ag.

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                        #41
                        Perhaps one of the things the farming community need to do is separate the cost side (fair debate) from access to products one. I suspect most farmers want access to a number of different products that meet their specific needs for control of weeds, bugs, diseases, harvest desication, etc. needs. Not everyone is going to take the same approach (good thing) but it is nice to have tools in the tool box to deal with different agronomic and pest issues.

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                          #42
                          Then the only thing you can do is make a statement with your wallet. don't buy their seed. Lots of other choices far cheaper.

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