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[furrowtickler]

Virtually every crop grown on earth has been crossbreed - so there all now considered GMO??
Even the wine they were drinking in that video came from g**** vines that have been crossbred at on time - so GMO wine ?? Those avocado's ??

[furrowtickler]

Is there a difference between wheat sprayed with desicants and "clean" wheat as far as the disaster he promotes with eating wheat ? Is that the link that has caused all these issue science the 70's when desicants were first used and not the wheat itself as he claims ?
Just would like to see some hard evidence either way - the evidence he promotes could be , already is , irreversibly damaging to wheat production all over.

[nibs1]

I dont think it is or grains that are the problem,maybe it is all the additives that is added later. Look at store bought bread and home made bread side by side on the cupboard one will mold in a couple of days and one will last for weeks Hmmm. there is a good write up in yesterdays Globe & Mail about additives linked to bowel diseases but it is on the last page. Why are these write ups always on the last page?

[burnt]

Mr. Kaiser said "Science is battling for survival in a world that is becoming more aware of the effects of belief." !!!

Yes, indeed it is.

And perhaps this is due to the fact that the very-fallible mantra that science is "to be conducted free from bias".

Impossible... All one can hope for is that experimentation is conducted by someone who is aware of his/her bias and evaluated accordingly.

The safeguard of "peer review" has lost its credibility with scandals like the Climategate meltdown/subterfuge or AGW data-fixing undermining that support(Michael Mann's hockey stick! He could make a great warped stick that might benefit the Leafs LOL)).

The public is becoming more aware that the best science can be affected by the strongest lobby or deepest purse, so who's to blame for the erosion of "belief" in the scientific process?

Therefore, in the absence of sound reason, any belief can prosper and grow even if it's more of a cancer than a healthy augmentation.

So we are going to have to develop a bit more sensitivity about attacking "religion", which is merely a systematized form of belief...LOL!

(BTW, I'll stick to mine since it has been around for quite a while, with good effect.)

[fjlip]

Debate is good, more information is better. Along the same lines is "Grain Brain" by Dr. David Perlmutter, a neurologist. Well written, research quoted, 16 pages of acknowledgements. He also exposes in great detail gluten/carbs/sugar effects on our brain. The possible connections to chronic diseases. His focus is inflammation, however minor, is happening to all of us. We all respond differently to triggers. Google if you wish. Eat how you believe applies again. Yes and if these allegations are true, I am certainly disappointed we grow stuff that is proven unhealthy. Same with processing that ruins nutritive value of the raw food.
This is what we get from a "connected society", and ability to QUESTION popular long standing beliefs. Go for it!

[cottonpicken]

I agree on the sugar or more specifically fructose,glucose doesn't need to go to the liver fructose does.Alcholics and sugarholics livers look identical.

Watch all these doe head parents feeding their super sized kids fruit juice or pop,jesus.

[fjlip]

Another PBS topic, on sugar, suggested that corn fed anything was bad, including all such meat. On top of that high fructose corn syrup, which they are renaming in an effort to deflect, is used in nearly all processing. CORN could be the worst crop on earth for our health! Interesting...

[furrowtickler]

So is it the actual corn or the fructose ??

[rkaiser]

Ah yes - CORN - and Fructose corn syrup - and what they have done to it down yonder... There is a lot bigger issue than wheat methinks.

[furrowtickler]

So when exactly did wheat become a "GMO" ??? At the same time as g****s that make the wine that these fukin hypocrite yuppies drink with their non GMO salads???

[fjlip]

The grain corn. Cattle, hogs, chickens and fish on a high carb/corn diet get screwed up too. And yes our sugar damaged livers are same as HD alcoholics.

[BTO_farmalll]

Sue Them Two Quacks Like R-Calf Sued Oprah That Black B!tch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cottonpicken]

Carbohydrates are the three sugars glucose,fructose(fruit sugar),lactose(milk),sucrose(white sugar)is basically just 50/50 glucose/fructose

Fructose when consumed while eating fruit or a cob of corn isn't as bad because the pulp and fibre regulate act as a lattice in the digestion process,plus when you think about mother nature doesn't mind you eating a few oranges,but just drinking the juice of a few dozen oranges at a sitting....

Cant remember for sure what the ratio of glucose/fructose is for corn syrup.

Don't know how this would really effect the meat of animals we eat other than toxins that get stored in fat,eggs on the other hand,theres something going on with them,have heard they are feeding chickens food colouring to get brighter yolks,that could be a myth,don't know much about all that.

[furrowtickler]

So is organic wheat GMO as well ? Unless you have a wheat variety that is 80 years old ? I would think even red fife was a crossbreed of two varieties - no ??

[burnt]

It irks me that the term "GMO" is thrown around so loosely. There is no "GMO" wheat on the market.

There is a difference between cross-breeding/hybridization and genetic modification by gene splicing.

I'm not saying that there haven't been great changes in the properties of modern and primitive wheat varieties.

But there seems to be a malicious intent in slinging the term "GMO" around, with all its negative imagery in the public consciousness.