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    #16
    I respectfully disagree with your opinion about seed genetics.

    We are a very small market in the global community. If we do not have good protection for PBR, intellectual property rights, and novel developments in our seeds... we are and will further fall behind those in the global community who can protect plant breeders and attract further research and seed advancements. The old UPOV does not cut it. Which is why the global community has been developing and refining the new UPOV... to advance agriculture and be sustainable in our food production system.

    Cheers!

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      #17
      BTW Captain...

      Please write Hunter and his railing crew... the CTA, and local MLA's you know... get out the pen... it is mightier than the sword!!!

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        #18
        Shut The Fck up About yer New n' Improved Varieties Tom!!!!!!!!!! I Have Yet Ta See Any New Variety Beat Thee Old Tried, Tested, n' True Bin Run Seed!!!!!!!!



        #FckYerselves

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          #19
          Tom what are you on.
          quit taking it,
          your health is more important than this crusade.
          i know the gov. is responsible for the
          transportation fiasco we now face.
          you have just been a target on here for your defense of them.
          it is almost like your having a crisis of faith.
          you helped feed this snake and now it bit you.
          now you bring another snake in.
          UPOV91
          but it will be nicer?

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            #20
            Then BTO, you had better hire a different agronomist; get a new seed supplier... do more research... or all of the above!

            Cheers!

            Get all of your friends to write CEO Hunter a letter... you folks could flood his mail room!!! Write Bill Gates;

            ""The only person who beneficially owns, or exercises control or direction over, directly or indirectly, shares carrying 10 per cent or more of the voting rights attached to any class of shares of the company is Mr. William H. Gates III," the circular said.

            CN's market capitalization for its 458.6 million shares was $32 billion."

            They need to know... about the nasty and mean war he has waged against the farmers in western Canada!!!

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              #21
              Tom , so UPOV 91 will not cost the average farmer a lot more in seed expenses?

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                #22
                Sawfly,

                IN CASE YOU FORGOT...

                WE
                ARE
                THE
                Government.

                So now you complain... why?

                My musings actually make sense... so you must try to politically cut me down to size... cause... conservative people who care for each other...

                Are unworthy of any consideration?

                Do you work for Hunter's alliance? Are you being paid by them???

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                  #23
                  Furrow,

                  Seed prices well may not change... in fact they may be reduced if brown bagging is reduced.

                  R and D will be paid by more growers which should mean actual individuals could well pay less.

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                    #24
                    Yup... and what you demonstrate there, furrow, is the a Synergy.


                    1 thing doesn't make a crop.

                    A planned and complete approach makes a crop.


                    That doesn't mean throw everything at it, and doesn't mean throw this 1 thing at it to prevent this 1 thing. (both very prevalent management practices these days, eh?)

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                      #25
                      And that approach = overproduction, higher input cost, lower price.

                      Get on that treadmill and run harder, that's what the winners do!

                      You'll win ya know if you can get that right combination of 400$ inputs to get 2 more bushel then your neighbor.

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                        #26
                        And so it should be. Farmers have and will continue to pay for R&D. Any thing else will be next to theft.
                        Seed growers should get COP only seed should be same price as commercial.

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                          #27
                          I am not talking seed prices, it's the overal seed cost that has a lot of people worried. Buying 80 ac of wheat at $14 is a lot cheaper than buying 4000 ac of wheat at $13.99 .
                          So if I only need to buy 80 ac worth of new cert seed every couple of years what's the big benifit of UPOV 91 to R and D ? It's is no different than the current set up unless we will be forced to buy all certified seed for every ac we farm every year then the money for you and R and D will be huge .

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                            #28
                            We haven't been TOLD what the royalty will be yet! Could be more than the seed.
                            Ritz just signed a blank check on our behalf.

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                              #29
                              Higher input cost ?? Than what ? Your comment on spending $400 /ac just to get 2 bus more is just foolish. I was just simply showing an example of what we seen. It's called spreading out our risk. Some go all in at seeding , some just put in bare essentials , some try to balance it out depending on conditions at hand. It realy don't matter in the big picture. I could care less if I get 5 bus more or less than the neighbour - I worry about my own net returns. If by doing plots like this shows a net benifit we will do more.
                              I hate to tell you but in the big picture increasing our production marginally on our own farms here has nearly zero affect on world prices. That's what we are told if production is down from flooded out ac and/or drought , right ?
                              I would far rather get more out of what I have than farm more to make less - that's the treadmill IMO

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                                #30
                                wmoebis,

                                We have provincial Universities breeding varieties,
                                Ag Canada,
                                Provincial gov's Ag Depts,
                                Private seed co's that are farmer owned,
                                Pulse growers provincially,
                                plus the multinationals.

                                Your wild imagination... should mean already... we would have been paying vastly more being that a functional PBR system has been in place since 1990.

                                "Who administers plant breeders' rights?

                                Since 1990, Canada has had legislation called the Plant Breeders' Rights Act. This law is administered by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency's Plant Breeders' Rights Office.

                                Canada's Plant Breeders' Rights program is voluntary: a breeder may choose to protect a new variety or not. The grant of a plant breeder's right does not overrule any other mandatory regulatory requirements.

                                Plant breeders' rights that are granted in Canada only apply in Canada. To protect that same variety in another country, the breeder must make a separate application in that jurisdiction."

                                "Can heritage varieties be protected by plant breeders' rights?

                                In most cases, heritage varieties are not eligible for protection by plant breeders' rights because they do not meet the requirement of being "new".

                                How is a plant variety evaluated?

                                Before being granted protection under plant breeders' rights, new plant varieties must be evaluated in growing trials to confirm that they are
                                •distinct from all other varieties, and
                                •sufficiently uniform and stable in their characteristics."
                                http://www.inspection.gc.ca/plants/plant-breeders-rights/overview/eng/1335968583875/1335969867075

                                wmoebis,

                                Will you write CEO Hunter, and provide an explanation that clearly provides evidence... that grain growers are being hurt by his aggressive hurtful management practices that lower service and increase basis?

                                If not, Why not? Will you make a submission to the CTA?

                                Thanks for your consideration!

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