In defence of Tom

[freewheat]

Yes, they will do this. To make it appear islam is peaceful and safe to us. In reality, because of their silence on denouncing the terrorists amongst them, they are failing to convince most Canadians that their book is a good option.

Any muslim who truly is a peace lover, thinks women are equal humans, and loves their christian and Jewish brethern, is NOT reading their book very well.

[TOM4CWB]

It sure looked to me that the Cwb was involved with the CNCP providing information to stop our class action against the rr.
I wonder if they had people that got part of the $258,000 in expert consultations?
Hunters council knew way more about my grain farm than I thought Possibly attainable through public sources.

One hopes justice will prevail yet without real people with honourable motivation those seeking bonuses and profits too often win

[lakenheath]

The majority of Muslim mosques teach jihad......end of story.

[blackpowder]

Captain Oblivious. Are you capable of an accurate meaningful poll? I'll say this over and over again. Its attitudes like yours that doomed the _ _ _.

[nicolaas]

To all the self made, excellent business types out there, how are we to address the ships waiting at port issue? For each port terminal to get enough of the same grade, protein content of wheat to fill the ships, it seems to take all winter. this is one area where the CWB seemed to do a better job - movement of the grain as the ships could move from port to port,or pooling all grain from all inland terminals, sending it to one terminal. coordination was the key. You have to admit that this was one area where the CWB had a benefit? This seems to me to be the fundamental flaw in the anti CWB/ non pooling side. These problems have definitely been compounded by the railways hauling oil. Canola, barley and peas are a totally different animal, easier to get enough to fill ships with of a consistant grade.

[foragefarmer]

Tom4cwb stated

"It sure looked to me that the Cwb was involved with the CNCP providing information to stop our class action against the rr.
I wonder if they had people that got part of the $258,000 in expert consultations?
Hunters council knew way more about my grain farm than I thought Possibly attainable through public sources."


Tom isn't the CWB run by your buddy Ritz and his appointed Board of Directors? Why would they help the RRs and upset one of their largest supporters and donators

[farmaholic]

Don't waste your time. It's got to "somebodies" fault but not his. Next will be call for donations. A victim of his own personality!!!

[CptnObvious]

Blackpowder( an anachronism if I ever heard one): Explain how an attitude of support like mine doomed the CWB.

[fjlip]

To fix the terminal MESS, looks like the grain companies need a pooling entity to eliminate the waste a port!

[bucket]

We need railway traffic controllers to allow open rights and a coordinator at the ports to move grain quickly.

Maybe one terminal handles cereals another oilseeds and one for pulses.

Then the coordinator partitions the grain sales accordingly.

This idea of bringing a vessel in and then back out to anchor or just waiting is idiotic and expensive.

[wmoebis]

fjlip I think you are somewhat right. However Mr Ritz has undercut the services out there so bad that it will cost us producers more again.
I am referring to the loss of inward inspection. There is no consistency or training in our system today. Do you think one company would trust another to ship into their terminal or accept grain on their behalf without trying to screw the other? Do you think that one company would trust another to grade and handle your grain on their behalf?

We would be paying for third party inspectors on every car at a price that we may not want to pay. Also inspected by people that are picked up off the street for the cheapest possible all highly trained inspectors were let go and not replaced.
Humprey Bannack VP of CFA asked for universal/mandatory training for all elevator staff 2yrs ago it fell on deaf ears once again.

Those with the most to hide have the most secure doors.

[Integrity_Farmer]

Tom do you have any more conspiracy theories for us? Until you understand the problem you cannot provide a solution. Remember Tom the CWB once took the railways to court for lack of grain rail movement. They received a financial settlement as well.

You are experiencing first hand how the free market is working. Your plan and Ritz's marketing choice is returning farmers about 40% to 60% of the port price over the last 2 years. In the past farmers received 90% of the port price

You see Tom the CWB used to regulate the movement of wheat and barley to the west coast and all ports. Since it was all CWB grain a ship could load at all the three Vancouver terminals and the grain movement was mainly efficient and coordinated.

A ship now has to come into a Pioneer terminal at Vancouver up to six times before it gets a load. This is good for the longshoremen (a lot more work) but inefficient and costly for farmers.

Whatever happened to the CWB's eastern rail movement when we had a large crop?

Where is the CWB you said would compete to buy your grain? Where are those grain companies you said would compete?

Tom it seems to me competition is driving down the price. On a recent sale to Iraq Canada had the lowest tender with a price even lower than prices offered by the Ukraine and Soviet Union.

Finally, Tom you could still go on a hunger strike at the CWB to protest this or whatever you are protesting. Remember you did this once before for several days.

I understand Ritz's CWB still operates on one floor of the old CWB building.
Maybe your pals on the board of directors such as Ken Motiuk and Bruce Johnson could help with your accommodations.

You may also want to find out why there is no audited statement from the CWB. I remember your crusade against secrecy at the CWB

[Integrity_Farmer]

Tom do you have any more conspiracy theories for us? Until you understand the problem you cannot provide a solution. Remember Tom the CWB once took the railways to court for lack of grain rail movement. They received a financial settlement as well.

You are experiencing first hand how the free market is working. Your plan and Ritz's marketing choice is returning farmers about 40% to 60% of the port price over the last 2 years. In the past farmers received 90% of the port price

You see Tom the CWB used to regulate the movement of wheat and barley to the west coast and all ports. Since it was all CWB grain a ship could load at all the three Vancouver terminals and the grain movement was mainly efficient and coordinated.

A ship now has to come into a Pioneer terminal at Vancouver up to six times before it gets a load. This is good for the longshoremen (a lot more work) but inefficient and costly for farmers.

Whatever happened to the CWB's eastern rail movement when we had a large crop?

Where is the CWB you said would compete to buy your grain? Where are those grain companies you said would compete?

Tom it seems to me competition is driving down the price. On a recent sale to Iraq Canada had the lowest tender with a price even lower than prices offered by the Ukraine and Soviet Union.

Finally, Tom you could still go on a hunger strike at the CWB to protest this or whatever you are protesting. Remember you did this once before for several days.

I understand Ritz's CWB still operates on one floor of the old CWB building.
Maybe your pals on the board of directors such as Ken Motiuk and Bruce Johnson could help with your accommodations.

You may also want to find out why there is no audited statement from the CWB. I remember your crusade against secrecy at the CWB

[agchat]

Boys, Boys, Boys. As i read this discussion i laugh harder and harder and harder, till the wife hollers "what you laughing at"? Nicolass were the winner, you hit the nail on the head, but no one else on here seems to see that. Well you got your freedom, no more waiting for money for a year, no more being told were you can haul, and yes pars no more buy backs. Forgot one thing did you not? Who the hell is going to organize all this flow of movement? You need ONE strong voice for that, and you lost it. I have always said CWB needed a shaking, but not so hard it was dismantled. Some of you on here remind me of a high school girl who wanted her freedom, so she ****ed her brains out till, OH OH now what do I do!

[fjlip]

If the chaos at the terminals is accurate, guess why we are so screwed on basis... way more costs and demurrage. Laughable, if it was not costing us billions. Where are the statesmen/women?