Lack of leadership/vision

[foragefarmer]

Tom4cwb

Where I farm in Manitoba there are no Bicker gangs nor First Nation Gangs. There are just a lot of hard working farmers and rural people. This is the case through out Manitoba and Winnipeg, Brandon , Selkirk Portage La Prairie , etc etc.

There are gangs in every major city across Canada, including your beloved Calgary and Edmonton.

Tom for you to say something to stupid is unbelievable. I have farmed and lived my entire life in Manitoba and have no regrets. Nothing is perfect anywhere.

Tom you like to come across as such a religious, God loving man. It's very evident you use religion just to hide behind, because inside you only care about your self and nobody else.

The so called "hunger strike" you claim to be on is just a big farce like you are.

I have contacted my MP and discussed in great length the poor RR service. Tom, I will be phoning her again to let her know that in no way should my comments be associated with any thing you say or do.

Tom you'll screw this up for all farmers with your conduct.

[farmaholic]

If you listen closely you can hear the callouses forming...

[grassfarmer]

Good post forage farmer - the only part I'd disagree with is when you say for Tom to say something so stupid is unbelievable. It was entirely predictable to me because he is a complete buffoon hiding behind his mask of superiority and religion.

[Braveheart]

SF3, we need a new thread called "Judgement Friday".

Re gangs in MB, Indian Posse pretty active in Brandon, Wpg, some drug connections in rural.

Hell's Angels, Spartans, and Los Bravos are mostly active in Stoney Mountain Pen. Grassfarmer will be safe around Belmont. More chance of dying from algae infested water from Pelican Lake.

[foragefarmer]

Barveheart

Correct about the gangs, but that's everywhere in western Canada. Manitoba doesn't have the patent on them as TOM is suggesting.

For a guy who wants everybody at the party, Tom is a crappy host.

[charliep]

Sorry for breaking in but I have to tell Braveheart I have finished season 6 of Sons of Anarchy and am going through withdrawl. Must find season 7. Only bring up because of the reference to gangs.

[foragefarmer]

Charlie

Did you throw that in to deflect the issue away form Tom's stupid post regarding Manitoba?

I'm calling Tom out on it and your worried about a HBO show. Charlie what would your comment be if it was reversed and the comment was made about Alberta?

[Braveheart]

Charlie, I hoped you might respond after seeing the reference. Can you believe where that story has gone? It gets wilder.

[Braveheart]

Forage, Tom is a unique character. I'm thankful to know him. He has brought an interesting aspect to my life.

I have responded to Charlie's post. I'm not trying to derail (ha) this thread as Charlie obviously wasn't either.

[charliep]

Just a conversation that Braveheart and I have had over time.

[Braveheart]

Forage and Tom, re having everyone at the party, my problem is what kind of party? As far as everyone phoning their MP, which never hurts, it will be useless.

That approach leaves a policy vacuum. What rail policy do we want? More regulation and what form? Commercial logistics which doesn't exist now?

As the producer of a product that mostly moves by rail, we are not even the shipper in most cases. So as the producer, perhaps we need to concentrate on the first point, the elevator and grain co.

If our contracts stated that delivered or not the grain cos had to pay at least 75% of the value of the contract on the delivery date, plus storage after that date, things might start to change.

Now, the grain cos, as the shipper, might be more proactive and forceful with their lobby for rail reform. Why not take farmers, except for a Producer Association, out of rail discussions?

[foragefarmer]

Braveheart

Sounds like Tom's your pastor? When he tells you to drink the purple kool, I guess you'll just follow. Doesn't surprise me.