New Macdonald Farm

[tweety]

Perhaps what the CEO of Bayer was saying makes sense now to some of you? Maybe? Kind of?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypF15z3euwM

[freewheat]

My wife showed me that last week. This is the stuff we are fighting against.

[sumdumguy]

Freewheat, in our perpetual quest to overproduce the market and gratify machinery and chemical companies we "fight" against what?

[boarderbloke]

It's pretty simple, let them grow their own food supply! Lets encourage them to tear up their front lawn for garden vegetables. Lets help them lobby their municipal gov'ts to allow livestock and other critters in their urban backyards. Then they can tether a goat or sheep on the back lawn, next to the chicken coop. Of course the changed bylaw will allow them to collect feces, from their person and from the animals in the back, to fertilize the garden in the front. I'm sure they'll be able to convince their kids to turn off the video games or get off facebook to walk about the fragrant garden to pick off bugs and mites that will be trying to eat the plants their trying to grow.

Wanna see the price of land go up, outlaw all imports of food, and make them grow their own.

[tweety]

I would hope if laws changed to organic only they would be like eggs in California where they had to be 'sustainable'.

Any imports also had to follow those same rules.

But this is Canada.....

i am seriously conflicted on this topic, while i feel less production by us would solve 'problems' the import of cheap food would kill us.

[burnt]

Those who promote such thinking are firmly in control.

Don't fool yourself into thinking that they will change or be stopped in their intended agenda.

When hunger hits the useful idiots who were used to promote their misguided efforts, then they will understand - too late, of course - that they were simply little *****s pimped out to satiate the lecherous urges of a few elites...

Not just food production, but every aspect of society is being infected by this nihilistic mentality that is called liberalism.

And these swine are in control of education of the nation's young?

This sick mentality has gripped the west and will take it on a path to degeneracy and eventual oblivion.

This sick mentality is what ISIS sees as its duty to overthrow.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

[burnt]

"that is called liberalism"

Should have said "that constitutes modern liberalism"

[rkaiser]

I think that the borderbloke nailed it --- other than that he seems to have stopped at the border of western culture.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."


Capitalism as opposed to liberalism - correct me if I am assuming the comparison burnt, has been highjacked by greed. Just as the food that "Macdonald" the modern day farmer grows and expects money from so that governments and multinational food corps can find a way to distribute that food to those who have come to expect it rather than grow it themselves.

If there are any *****s pimped out to satiate the lecherous urges of the elite burnt; I say it is not the children and hesitate to suggest who those *****s are on a site filled with men and women who feel they have to fight to be allowed to farm in the modern way. A way that has created slavery down on the farm with lecherous elite pimps telling them what to do and when to do it.

[perfecho]

As a farmer, I grow what I can for my family and a few friends... meat, poultry and a garden. I believe it is better quality, better taste and feel more secure about "what is in it"...which includes the processing as well as the growing. This year I hope to include pork.
However, on the other hand we buy the rest and really don't worry about it, although we do read the labels and try to make "better" choices.
There are some practices I do that I really don't feel great about in my farming operation, but they are industry standards, and we sell into the industry..... I do "get" where this movement is coming from, but they are like us.....we all seem to overdo a good thing!

[freewheat]

Sumdum. We fight against the lies and the complete disconnect among consumers.

If we are lied about, I for one will fight back.

[grassfarmer]

I don't understand the logic or business acumen of the farmers against this. So many of the posts on here highlight how difficult it is to make a living in conventional agriculture, you rail against the input suppliers for charging too much yet you are the first to leap to the defence of their products.

At the same time the consumer is increasingly unhappy with the companies producing their food, they want to encourage you as farmers to produce the kind of food they want, they could be the key to let you out of the jail of marginal profitability agriculture and you are beating them off with a stick? Makes no sense.

As is often been said on here consumers in Canada and North America spend less of their income on food than anywhere in the world - they have the money to pay for what they want so why not produce it for them? Remember in business the first rule is "the customer is always right".

[binthere]

every addict has to hit rock bootom to change.

[FarmRanger]

The customer is always right, but it ticks me off when he(she) is seriously and intentionally misinformed about our production methods by people with their own greedy agendas.

Consumers bought cigarettes 100 years ago thinking that they were a good way to decrease stress and calm your nerves. They were right. Organic customers avoid modern agriculture because they avoid infinitesimally small amounts of pesticides. They’re right too.

The thing they have in common is that they’re both wrong about the harmful effects.

[tweety]

The customer is right after the strongest influence of the best marketing plan presented to them. Marketing is the foundation, right or wrong.

Customers don't know what they want, they are told what they want.

Organic is good at marketing, creating emotion and passion, while conventional quotes science studies.

[rkaiser]

If the so called conventional farming proponents are so sure that organic advertisers are lying, why not take the high road and advertise and label GMO food and food grown with pesticides and chemical inputs. Show that gol dern consumer what you got if you think it is all about truth.

Here is some truthful advertising that could be written on each package of beef.."Please know that Ractopamine, Ralgro, and Rumensin were used in the creation of this beef and it is all GOOD FOR YOU... Trust us."