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    #31
    Of course it applies to you grassfarmer. Every last one of us is easily and completely influenced by marketing.

    and if someone who says they aren't is affected most of all. Plenty of science to back that up.

    I eat both kinds of bread. Now if one was GMO and one wasn't, it wouldn't matter. Both are food safe.

    Grassy, you are one of those greatly influenced by this type of marketing. You feel what you do is somehow 'safer' 'better' 'sustainable' while the rest of us are not. You've been suckered into the religion of organics while purposely ignoring science. The modern highly selective troglodyte.

    You have the words sucker deeply tattooed on your forehead.

    And like a religion, you'll take it to the grave.

    All the food certified is safe in a grocery store - organic or not, that's why we have people educated to determine that. Are they perfect? No. But i'd rather have someone who studied the subject for 12 years with a phd tell me its not safe or safe then a cowboy or a soccer mom who says it isn't that has been deeply influenced by slick advertising.

    Yes, in case you missed it, you are the exact target audience of this movement and its working!

    On subject?

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      #32
      Wow tweety other than one little comment, I will let Iain deal with your accusation. Incredible how far a person will go to defend the right to do what they believe is right. And I have to say, I respect your will to look after your family and your stuff, but to say that you use chemicals because you trust the science when that same science says that the reason for GMO's is to feed the starving? Holy doodle - talk about buying into bullshit.

      As for labeling - organic is labeled buddy and that seems to be a problem with you as labeling generally takes advertising to back it up.

      I think that the idea of labeling GMO etc. in exchange for truth about growing vegetables in shit is a good idea LEP.

      However you want to go on about this - the bottom line is that people like to choose.

      Chem farming came in the back door in my opinion and held back information from the public as it became main stream. Science or no science, information was suppressed. And the food that used to be mainstream - aka organic / natural now had to be labelled.

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        #33
        and you kaiser are another victim of slick ads and the power of pseudo science.

        Anti vaxxers, same thing.

        Juice cleanses, yet another. No science, just slick talkers.

        The internet is a goldmine of opportunity. If you can make piles of money at it, why not.

        PT Barnum said it best.....

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          #34
          http://www.nurselovesfarmer.com/2014/11/food-activist/


          "I am pro-food choice. I always have been. If you want to eat local grass-fed, free-range organic food—good for you, it’s great we have that choice. BUT, you don’t have to slander the choices I make to raise and buy conventional foods that are safe and affordable for my family. There are so many people in this world that do not have any food choices. It is truly a privileged problem to complain about the food we already have and to try to take safe food choices away from consumers."

          Read more http://www.nurselovesfarmer.com/2014/11/food-activist/

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            #35
            I dont totally dissagree with rkaiser. I think the film was staged and the child dance at the end was unapropriate. People should have choice. Although science has in fact failed us many times. Drink well water For nutrients. Drink cow milk It works. There is a lot of bad info also loke the corn growers that will never eat the corn they grow. Of course the the corn is for livestock. Not the same as what we eat.

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              #36
              tweety tweety tweety....

              I am truly at a loss for words.

              I hope you and your family are making money and live long healthy lives....

              It is all about what you "believe" after all.

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                #37
                Not really on point tweety, I'm not an organic producer, never have been. Too much stuff I don't agree with in their rules and production methods. I use my brain to decide that, not as gullible to advertising as you seem to be.

                Damn straight we are more sustainable than your conventional hydrocarbon powered beef producer though and plenty science to back that up.

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                  #38
                  Grass farmer you talk about sustainable agriculture. Let's talk about sustaining or increasing the world population. If those kids in the video want to eat food the new macdonald way 80 percent of them better find a job in agriculture because we will need all of them to keep up the production.

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                    #39
                    Here is the deal. There is a whole "organic" movement who are fighting against this stupid video.

                    The group, "Only Organic" shut this thing down.

                    Many organic farmers, and many in the industry, have fought against this for several reasons.

                    Exploitation of children, indoctrination of children, that alone is a terrible way to try and win an argument. Blatant lies regarding gm crops and the spraying of them.

                    Imagine the uproar if a conventional farmer dragged a bunch of kids to a stage, and filmed them eating gm food. Filmed them eating cage eggs. Filmed them eating regular beef. To promote "big ag" falsely. Big Organic would be on that like a dirty shirt.

                    The darkness of the video, when they are fogging the stage, and injecting the fake cows, as if this is what farmers do in real life, is so negative, some organic groups are even calling it hate speech towards conventional farms.

                    My wife is into this kind of mis information. I may get her to post for me, she studies this kind of philosophy in a big way, and knows more than me about this kind of indoctrination.

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                      #40
                      I dont get it. This video has been shared twice on Agriville, both times by conventional farmers. I know they object to it, but everytime it is shared that is free advertising. Posting the Agvocate clips would be more beneficial.
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                      Five ways to leverage social media to tell ag’s real story
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                      Those of us who work in agriculture – who live and love it every day – have the responsibility to make sure our industry is better understood. Because if we don’t, someone else will. And, we might not like what they have to say.

                      Social media offers many opportunities to tell ag’s story. We can use it proactively to show and tell what’s going on in our industry. Or, we can use it to get in on conversations that are already happening about agriculture and food. Here are five ways you can start leveraging social media today to tell ag’s positive story.

                      You don’t need to go it alone or re-invent the wheel. Find people from different sectors or areas of the country who you think are helping tell the real, positive story of our industry. You can help spread their great work by hitting the share button or re-tweeting their content.

                      Think about what someone outside of ag might want to know – walk a mile in their shoes. Speak to issues that matter to them using terms and information that are accessible and responsible.

                      Search hashtags to find ag and food conversations you want to get in on. Want to share your perspective on #GMO? Or curious about what people are saying about how we care for farm animals? Follow or search relevant hashtags. Look for conversations that you can contribute to. Share your perspective, photos and experiences. Speak from the heart and remember that it isn’t about picking a fight – it’s about sharing a conversation.

                      Remember, a photo (or video) can be worth a thousand words. Share images of your farm or your role in agriculture online using channels like Facebook, Instagram, Tumblr, and more. You can also make and share simple videos to help others see “behind the barn doors.” Here’s a blog post featuring some producers talking about why they make videos about their operations.

                      Keep calm, and agvocate on! Online and off, it can be frustrating to hear misperceptions about the industry we love or to deal with people who misrepresent who we are and what we do. It’s important for us to stay calm, keep our cool and focus on answering questions, sharing our stories and experiences, as well as the facts and resources that can paint a more accurate picture of our industry.

                      How are you telling ag’s real, positive story online? Let us know! You can send us a note by replying to this message or send us a tweet and use #AgvocateChallenge.

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