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    #37
    Not really on point tweety, I'm not an organic producer, never have been. Too much stuff I don't agree with in their rules and production methods. I use my brain to decide that, not as gullible to advertising as you seem to be.

    Damn straight we are more sustainable than your conventional hydrocarbon powered beef producer though and plenty science to back that up.

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      #38
      Grass farmer you talk about sustainable agriculture. Let's talk about sustaining or increasing the world population. If those kids in the video want to eat food the new macdonald way 80 percent of them better find a job in agriculture because we will need all of them to keep up the production.

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        #39
        Here is the deal. There is a whole "organic" movement who are fighting against this stupid video.

        The group, "Only Organic" shut this thing down.

        Many organic farmers, and many in the industry, have fought against this for several reasons.

        Exploitation of children, indoctrination of children, that alone is a terrible way to try and win an argument. Blatant lies regarding gm crops and the spraying of them.

        Imagine the uproar if a conventional farmer dragged a bunch of kids to a stage, and filmed them eating gm food. Filmed them eating cage eggs. Filmed them eating regular beef. To promote "big ag" falsely. Big Organic would be on that like a dirty shirt.

        The darkness of the video, when they are fogging the stage, and injecting the fake cows, as if this is what farmers do in real life, is so negative, some organic groups are even calling it hate speech towards conventional farms.

        My wife is into this kind of mis information. I may get her to post for me, she studies this kind of philosophy in a big way, and knows more than me about this kind of indoctrination.

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          #40
          I dont get it. This video has been shared twice on Agriville, both times by conventional farmers. I know they object to it, but everytime it is shared that is free advertising. Posting the Agvocate clips would be more beneficial.
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          Five ways to leverage social media to tell ag’s real story
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          Those of us who work in agriculture – who live and love it every day – have the responsibility to make sure our industry is better understood. Because if we don’t, someone else will. And, we might not like what they have to say.

          Social media offers many opportunities to tell ag’s story. We can use it proactively to show and tell what’s going on in our industry. Or, we can use it to get in on conversations that are already happening about agriculture and food. Here are five ways you can start leveraging social media today to tell ag’s positive story.

          You don’t need to go it alone or re-invent the wheel. Find people from different sectors or areas of the country who you think are helping tell the real, positive story of our industry. You can help spread their great work by hitting the share button or re-tweeting their content.

          Think about what someone outside of ag might want to know – walk a mile in their shoes. Speak to issues that matter to them using terms and information that are accessible and responsible.

          Search hashtags to find ag and food conversations you want to get in on. Want to share your perspective on #GMO? Or curious about what people are saying about how we care for farm animals? Follow or search relevant hashtags. Look for conversations that you can contribute to. Share your perspective, photos and experiences. Speak from the heart and remember that it isn’t about picking a fight – it’s about sharing a conversation.

          Remember, a photo (or video) can be worth a thousand words. Share images of your farm or your role in agriculture online using channels like Facebook, Instagram, Tumblr, and more. You can also make and share simple videos to help others see “behind the barn doors.” Here’s a blog post featuring some producers talking about why they make videos about their operations.

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            #41
            Grass farmer, how do you replace nutrients if not from hydrocarbons? Steal it from those who do? Or just mine your own?

            No free ride in nature.

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              #42
              A momentous day - when tweety proves beyond doubt that he isn't a farmer but a non-farming troll.

              How could anyone involved in primary agriculture be unaware of the process of photosynthesis and that all agriculture is based on harnessing the power of solar conversion. Free sunlight, free water - the very basis of our industry.

              If agriculture wasn't possible without hydrocarbons how did the oldtimers manage? - the guys that were planting, growing and harvesting crops along the Nile, Mesopotamia and elsewhere nine or ten thousand years before Christ?

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                #43
                Freewheat, this isn't really breaking new ground in terms of advertising. Kids are in adverts all the time - I assume they are paid for it as an adult would be? I don't see there need be indoctrination - they are acting out a skit for an advert and getting paid for it.

                Remember the old SunnyD controversy? Seem to remember kids in those adverts singing a little jingle and extolling the virtues of a product that were subsequently proven to be totally false, the contents were not as represented - totally misleading. Was it OK to use kids for that campaign and product?

                I suspect this will be going on more nowadays - all the corn syrup laden crap marketed as "natural fruit flavour" etc.

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                  #44
                  But I have never seen kids in an ad, completely based upon bashing another product.

                  I am gunna see if my wife will post. She is more eloquent, and is passionate about the social media outbursts by consumers far removed from farming.

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                    #45
                    They just took carbon from the soil, never replaced it. Really, this has to be explained to you?

                    Photosynthesis alone doesn't make a plant. Where do you get the P for the ATP cycle? Do hopes and prayers replenish your nitrogen? sulfur?

                    Shit, why bother typing anymore.

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                      #46
                      I agree tweety - quit typing.

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                        #47
                        And the point of the story was??
                        Yup, hobbyfarmer got it.

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                          #48
                          Blackpowder, Do you mean the free advertising for the New McDonald organic clip?
                          I think that little ditty is going to sell more than tshirts and coffee mugs.
                          I view stuff as marketing. Terry O Riley has excellent podcasts on the history of advertising. I think its called "The Age of Persuaion"or else "under the influence". It describes different companies' advertising strategies over the years.
                          Come to think of it, why not add a bonus 1 oz shot of glyphosate to the shirt and mug sales. All my town/city neighbors were always looking for a little free glyphosate for around their yard. Its expensive in the retails stores. This could be a step in the right direction. People love free stuff. Like the little sample bottles attached to the 750ml liquor bottles. I always go for that.

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