Plant Breeders’ Rights and Farmers Know the New Rules!

[farmaholic]

Furrow, I'll bet the whole ****ing distillery your analysis is right. We won't see it overnight but it will evolve.

Let's all become certified seed growers and sell each other seed. Kinda like the games in the purebred cattle business. If people truly think old varieties won't be deregistered and not fit into the appropriate classes where they came from, their head is so far up their ass they need oxygen pumped up to survive. Wake the **** up, you can't be that blind.

[farmaholic]

Ok iceman and SF3, time to change how you do things.
Put away that 28 run double disc drill you pull with that team of horses, sell or put the horses out to pature. Pull the threshing machine to the back forty and park it against the fence. Scrap the old plows and disc harrows. "Burn" all the old grain bins for winter heat. Park the old grain wagons at the end of the lane as a landmark for where you live. Get with the times already you Neanderthals.

Like farmer's have never adapted to or adopted new technology and innovation. They are a resourceful and a resilient bunch. Something can be said for anyone who has made it this far. Many quit, many a potential farmer was discouraged by their parents, we're not here because "its easy", most people in their right minds couldn't handle or cope with the risk and steady diet of bullshit. In a way....against all odds. Congratulations you're a survivor, you must have done something right.

[seabass]

Right on both points furrow! Tommys an old politician from way back. Not that I disagree with him on railways but easy distraction from Upov91. This rule opens up the ability of the big boys to sell us more seed and control the industry.

[TOM4CWB]

seabass,

To be truthful, the new rules are for future genetics...

The 'Plant breeders Rights' system was put in place long ago. Use of certified seed has long been an operational standard for much of the Identity Preserved products end users require. ISO, is standard amongst graino's long before UPOV91.

I see nothing in the new system that radically changes anything. Please remember, this has been the operational standard in the international procurement system since 1991.

I see nothing in the USA, EU, Australia, any of our major international competition for quality food grains, that would indicate a radical shift from present operational standards which generally asks for proof/audit trail for purity of these grains.

We are simply formalizing a little bit better what we have been doing for decades... and I really see no change in the profitability of seed growers' farms.

We truly need more innovation by plant breeders in the future... to reduce costs and use of pesticides... which is where the international food procurements system is headed. In the long term... this does nothing but make us here in Canada, more dependable suppliers of quality food for the global marketplace. This is required... to respectfully request a fair price for quality grains we provide.

OUR future becomes more reliable as a supplier... in one small way...this can't be bad... if we are to expect/command a premium price for our produce.

[farming101]

I cannot see why open pollinated non-GMO type plant breeding needs hundreds of millions of dollars thrown at it each year to make advancement. It is strang that recently there have been articles in farm mags about our great wheat variety heritage starting with Marquis.
Also how much work the plant breeders have accomplished in just the last few years.
What the large seed companies see is dollar signs. They will use high tech to design the new varieties. Terminator genes, GMO, all of it will be back in the news. It will be forced through.
Those seed companies will demand return on investment.
So, if the seed costs many times more to develope than seed does now, I would think seed prices are going straight up.
I'm boycotting any new UPOV91 varieties as long as I can.

[furrowtickler]

Well , time will tell Tom . I have a very bad taste in my mouth on a new 'protected' hrsw variety from last year , we had to pay a fortune for it , lots of hype about it , had to drive to the elevator to get it , wait in line for 3 hrs so they could treat it with a new pos treater that I would throw in the bush, could not keep for seed - and it was garbage beside our farm saved seed. 10 bus less and fell flat on the ground .
I seen a flash of the future on that 80 ac - and it raised the hair on my neck .
Sorry , I see a much diff future than what you are telling everyone - I hope your right and I am wrong .

[tweety]

Furrow, why on earth would you agree to those terms?

Now ask yourself, who didn't do their homework, you or the elevator? Are you that hungry for the next bleeding edge to get a 1/2 bushel advantage - maybe - that you are willing to sign what sounds like the most ridiculous marketing plan in the world for you? Full well knowing you can't keep the seed?

The industry knows farmers are the most gullible animal on the planet, maybe there is just too much money in farming because if there wasn't a little more thought would go into decisions like that.

Please farmers, wake up and do your homework. Don't set dumbass precedents. Farmers are the customers, don't shape your destiny with stupidity then whine like a school girl after the fact.

Farmers could, like other parts of the world, own the cereals seed industry and shape it exactly to our benefit. But we are just too ****ing stupid, and lazy, and whiners extraordinaire.

[furrowtickler]

Not doing my homework ? Lol - go *** your hat .
We were told that no prob we could use our own seed - but the rules were changed after we seeded it . It was just an 80 ac little wake up call.
Ask the facts before you go on a little rant and call guys stupid and school girls. We did not seed the farm to it , just enough to get seed if it was worth while .
We constantly do on farm trials to see what variety or fertility works best for us - if it don't work or fertility does not make sense we don't do it .
As far as being gullible lol - again go *** your hat, no variety goes even into trials on our farm unless it has the potential to make us money , then maybe a few acres in side by sides to see first hand.

[furrowtickler]

Just a little fact for tweety - we do more canola , wheat variety and fertility trials that all four of the local line co's put together. We have close to 40 different canola variety and fertility trials and about 15 different wheat fertility and variety trials on the go each year .
Nothing goes mainstream on the farm until it shows a significant return for us.
We also don't recommend large scale sales of any new canola variety unless we see it perform well in our trials and trials throughout the local area for two to three years.

[TOM4CWB]

furrow,

If you know what is up on wheat varieties... why did you pay the extra... and grow that wheat!

There are public varieties like CDC Go... that have no levy and royalty... and are top quality... to the extent that it is the highest registered variety in the CWRS class for western Canada... and a great blending wheat that if marketed with that in mind... should net a good premium!!!

You are free to waste your money... but please do not blame that on me!!!

[TOM4CWB]

Highest CWRS for

GLUTEN STRENGTH !!!

CDC GO

CGC results

[furrowtickler]

Store shelves are full of gluten free products so how valuable is high gluten - when did they start paying premiums on high gluten ?