T. Boone Pickens: The Keystone Pipeline

[errolanderson]

http://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/pickens-calgary-im-so-sorry-about-the-keystone-pipeline


So, why is Obama so opposed to the Keystone XL pipeline? As my dad used to say, “Son, it’s kind of like murder. It’s tough to explain.” T. Boone Pickens

[tweety]

Because canada hates value added, lets send it all to the states and give them the jobs?

Thanks Obama for the right decision for Canada. Build refineries here. Keep jobs here that last more then a short stint of a pipeline build. Sell refined products here instead of sending crude to texas to be processed and shipped back up here again.

[nicolaas]

I agree with you tweety wrgs to the pipeline and building refineries here. It will slow things down, add a sense of sanity, and leave something for my grandchildren.

[Hopperbin]

Obama vetoed it then said he was open to an american pipeline company to build it the dumb ****. So do they have one?

[Oliver88]

No oil pipelines = high freight rates and bad service for grain shippers.

Obama will be on the wrong side of history on this issue (and MOST other issues).

[Oliver88]

So Tweety wants wide open freight rates for grain and is against the Keystone XL pipeline?

How long does it take to get his proposed refineries approved?
What are the environmental/treehugger/political hurdles?
Does the Canadian economy justify mega refineries in Northern Alberta?

How will the refined product be sent to customers? (Rail, Truck or Pipeline)

[errolanderson]

Oliver 88 . . . amen

Keystone will be approval once Obama's political agenda is erased.

[parsley]

vvalk, there were lots of farmers who wined and dined on pooling account money, and got special perks because they sang wheat Board hymns. The organic growers a lot of shared info, which was often revealed marked partisanship.

And don't discount small farmers, many make fine coin. Small can mean lucrative just as much as large can. And small can mean dirt poor, just easily as large bankrupted land barons. Simply acting wealthy doesn't always represent wealth.

As far as I'm concerned, all farmers, big or small landowners or with big or small balls, should be welcomed to have their say on AV. Pars

[tweety]

Really Errol? You're cheering that?

Please explain how value added processing with long term stable employment is a bad thing for Canada?

[tweety]

Oliver, how does the crude get sent to Texas, refined there, get sent back to Canada now?

Also show me where i ever said open running rights??

Errol, quite the cheer! Perhaps you could explain how temp work to send away raw material is better than long term stable employment with value added processing? Shouldn't we be another Norway by now? Or is that just not the Canadian way?

[parsley]

Dunno why the post showed up on this page. Didint put it here. ! Magic in the spring. pars.

[Oliver88]

Tweety, you and Hopalong have been promoting removing/increasing the revenue cap for CNCP hauling grain.
At the same time you are against a pipeline that would move 860,000 barrels/day of oil to the Gulf of Mexico refineries. The alternative to a pipeline is moving oil by rail.

I am not a fan of that recipe for disaster.

[Hopalong]

Remember all the lead up to first major change and end of Crow rates.
Crow had become a rallying point among farmers, similar to what revenue agreement is today.
For years, Sask municipal assn had resolutions of support for Crow.
Inflation had made Crow rates only a portion of rail costs and government had put in place subsidies to haul grain off prairies.
It took years for growers to see that we were losing more from lack of service than we gained from low freight rates and subsidies.
Only after SARM support collapsed did government make change and introduce revenue cap which fixed things for a while but has flaws
Predict that change or end will also come for cap, just as it did for Crow and subsidies.

[Hopalong]

As to Keystone, It is similar issue for US politicians to what Crow has been for Ottawa.

[tweety]

I'll ask again Oliver, show one single post that says that.

Also, how does everything get to texas and back now? how does one trip of refined keeping the value added and jobs here worse then two trips using more pipeline and rail resources and giving the jobs and value added to texas? Asking again.

Can't wait to hear that answer!!