Creditors

[cottonpicken]

Its kind of comical in sense of how weak we have become.

I'm sure a lot here have generational stories of the men that fought this fight to bad we all turned into a bunch of sheep instead of the wolves our fathers,fathers,fathers where....to bad

[hobbyfrmr]

Farmaholic that is the best description i have heard to date. Im pretty sure farmers know that they have to time sales according to cash flows which used to work. More than ever the disfunction is at the railroad and grain companies' incompetence. They pass it all down to the farmer so there is no need to improve, there is no physical cash penalty to them.
As cotton describes, we are now forced to forward contract just to make sales which basically gives the companies secure and relatively predictable supply, removing volatility and farmer profit.

[hobbyfrmr]

Back around 1985 or so a local was expanding, he was "overpaying" for land at $1000/acre. The farming neighbourhood was quite sour about his increased purchase prices, they said he would never make it. Fast forward about 20 years, I quizzed him a little about how he managed debt. His theory was " don't worry about the money you borrowed, let the ones who lent it to you worry about it!"
I never was able to adopt that philosophy. 2 years ago he sold half of his land for $2500.00/acre. Now he's around 75 yrs old and farms 8 quarters with all brand new machinery.
I think that's pretty good.

[GOODRUM]

Well said cotton , sheep is a good description.
I signed advance papers, malt contract well virtually every paper pushed in front of me which I assume the responsibility of Mother Nature , grain companies, rail roads and every one else getting a peace of the pie, all without any mention about my expectations and consequences if they don't fulfill there obligations.
What are we thinking ?? Why are we responsible for everything that can go wrong?

[GOODRUM]

It's becoming more obvious we are the ones being farmed, were the ones being raised for profit .

[riders2010]

Well we got sidetracked many times. For instance let's make having a gun in the closet with a paper or without a paper more of an election issue than making a living. Let's make wheat board or no wheat board more if an issue than if we get rid of wheat board then what?

[wmoebis]

Has anyone ever read 'The history of The Canadian Grain Commission' by J.Blanchard?

It might be hard to find but you will see how we have come a full circle. Well that might not be true. I think we are at a lower point than back then.

[macdon02]

I feel for you know what you're going through and the greasy bastards don't pull reject you after default. The cynic in me wonders if the grain co and input suppliers aren't using the advances against us? Would costs and movement be better without it? I use the program to the max every year and not sure what I'd do without it. Just got a survey in the mail on the AMPA program anything you want me to say on your behalf? I don't usually do surveys but I'm responding to this one

[GOODRUM]

Mcdon. Funny thing, I got that survey too, I'm the same don't usually do them but I will have to have a closer look at this one.
Did a stats can survey last week on stored grain , she didn't have enough room for all my comments.
Was calmer than some she questioned earlier who we're yelling at her. Guess I should have yelled too, no one is listening.
Quebec gets a budget they don't like and protest instantly on the next news broadcast.

[GOODRUM]

The staff at ccga said there probably going to have more default accounts than ever before,
Ritz isn't listening to us or anyone else, looks like were on our own here. I thought they were better than this. Wrong!