Different product, similar result

[foragefarmer]

Hopalong

As a farmer, supply management doesn't bother me, and it shouldn't bother you either. The CWB is gone, nothings stopping you from your marketing freedom. Exactly which export markets is supply management preventing you to market "YOUR" grain to, if in fact you are marketing directly to an end user to start with.

They work hard, and deserve the money they make. Hopalong sounds like your a little envious.

[grassfarmer]

You still don't get it breadwinner - you just lost any connection you had with the end customer - you just committed to providing the Grain Cos with the cheapest product they can get.
Unless of course you are talking about supplying a bakery in Saskatoon with flour grown on your farm, or getting Klause to ship it in containers direct to China. Can't see either being a realistic alternative for the millions of acres of crop.
You've lost market share because the CWB quit giving it away? I've heard the Japanese are quite upset - surely you don't write them off as customers you don't need or want?

Hopalong wants to throw more away - supply management - why not? let's lead this race to the bottom of world prices on all commodities! May as well go out in style, LOL.
Bear in mind though the countries you are trying to undercut all support and subsidize their farmers financially more than Canada.
Will you ever cotton on to the fact that you are being led by false promises by the corporations who make money by moving product around the world - bought cheap, sold high with no compassion for those supplying the raw product.?

[BreadWinner]

Don't worry grass you my as well keep farming like your pappy and your grandpappy before him. If your so stuck in your ideology your son will do the same as you. Time to step out of the poorbox and start thinking for yourself. Japan is only upset because they cant buy high quality cheap Canadian wheat. Elevator companies are selling our wheat for a good price at the coast but oversupply by farmers is giving them lots of cheap product. The tides will change and the price will swing upwards.

[grassfarmer]

Oh yeah, I'm just doing as my father did - that's why I moved continents, changed enterprises and am about to move Province now. Nothing changes for me, LOL.

Now you're blaming your fellow farmers for the problems due to them over producing. You sure don't change much - desperately presenting bogus facts to try and back the shaky ideology.

[foragefarmer]

Breadwinner

"Elevator companies are selling our wheat for a good price at the coast but oversupply by farmers is giving them lots of cheap product. The tides will change and the price will swing upwards"

You really don't make any scene for someone calling themselves as a marketer. Breadwinner your nothing more than a price taker. You better go back to high school and take Marketing 101. Either that get your daddy to explain it to you.

[wilagro]

BreadWinner: You're dreaming in technicolor again. Must be a CONservative supporter. If you follow Harper's dreams of joining the Asia-Pacific bullshit pact better be prepared to sell wheat for even less money...we'll be practically giving it away at the farm level in order to compete.

[BreadWinner]

I love seeing you lefties squirm when we put our right wing salt in your wounds. Ganging up won't work just puts you all in the same leftie poorbox. Lol

[tweety]

grassfarmer said " Didn't stop you and your buddies chirping how much better prices were immediately post CWB and of course you attributed that all to the ending of the single desk. Cuts both ways - be honest. "

Um, no i didn't. You can't compare 2 different time lines as only one can exist.

I was curious as you said we lost a national money making treasure and wondered how you arrived at that.

[grassfarmer]

You are too funny tweety, trying to dictate what information people are allowed to include in an argument "You can't compare 2 different time lines as only one can exist." What a ridiculous statement.
I guess under your rules forum users won't be allowed to compare this year's weather with last, this year's crop yields with last year - "because only one timeline can exist"
You are trying to be a smart Alec but that was an epic fail.

[TOM4CWB]

Grassy,

The CWB may have been a 'National Money Maker' for you...

too sad it did not work that way for the vast majority of commercial size western Grain growers!!

Thanks for the idea... you really thought this through?

[grassfarmer]

No, tweety was the one who raised the "National Money Maker" not me. Take it up with him.

[tweety]

Oh grassy, calling something a fail because you don't understand it isn't very useful.

Feel free to explain then how you can run a value test on two different systems (full open market and yet a CWB monopsony) in the same time period.

So far you have been unable to explain anything from any question.

[stonepicker]

How soon some forget, big difference between export price and what we finally ended up with per bus. on the farm in days gone by also. Quit your whining and read a book. Grass farmer etc. why don't you call up japan and renew your personal relationship with them, i'm sure they remember you from the good old days.

[blackpowder]

Skimmed the above. A lot of isms being touted by all. Cant seem to find anything new. After several false starts I cant seem to think of anything new to add. Typical of this conversation.
Except maybe for individualism. Maybe if we had lost the War of 1812?

[sumdumguy]

farmRanger said

"We got rid of the monopsony, now we need to get rid of the rail monopoly. That kind of change, I can definitely live with."

Got any ideas of how we can get rid of the rail monopoly? Can you hear us Ottawa?