CARBON TAX

[BreadWinner]

I can see carbon taxes headed your way with a Liberal government. Fuel, fertilizer, cow farts will cost you big!!!! Before long you will be stroking a cheque to send to Ottawa to be sent to someone claiming to fix the environment. You cant tell me that the East doesn't want a chunk of your farm revenue.

[BreadWinner]

Say good bye to AGRI-Invest program and say hello to Agri-enviro program.

[fjlip]

Dumbest bullshit idea/tax grab, on the planet. Perhaps a 100 years of carbon reduction might move average temps a degree C. But oh wait Canada will cool 10 degrees into ice! Just to save the coastline cities, last thing Canada should agree to, to GET COLDER!. Got vote against that crap for sure.

[Oliver88]

Another dumb a$$ Liberal idea by Quebec and Ontario. How high will there unemployment rate go????

Idiots!

[TOM4CWB]

As a friend said the other day;

"The sun is going to swallow up the earth anyway"...

If we can conserve... while building a better future for our next generations... and make less pollution that increases quality of life for people and our nature we live in...

Then it is a great move/idea!

Otherwise 'carbon dioxide' being taxed... just because it can be... is counter productive.

[perfecho]

Unbelievable that senators can raise money for the parties....how does this get to be a "sobering second thought"...

[gustgd]

Not saying it's right. Or even that I agree with it but write it down Duffy will walk Scott free. Absolute maximum will be a slap on wrist small <50k repayment.

The rules we so poorly written and so poorly defined that while any sane person would agree he's a crook. Duffy will walk under the letter of the law.
Bright side is this may make the senate so unpalatable that the likes of Eastern Canada can't defend it any longer and they agree to changes.

Which may have been Harpers endgame all along.

If you listened to this weeks episode of the house maybe you'll catch my reasoning.

[bluefargo]

Gustg I've been feeling the same thing. I think Duffy will walk ( at least based on what I've seen so far). It would appear there are no rules surrounding senators living arrangements, expenses etc.
I guess if there's one thing the trial has shown so far is that the senators really serve no useful purpose in our system of government. Not that this comes as a big surprise. I laugh when I think of Pamela Wallin saying she was going to be an activist senator. Talk about an oxymoron.

[perfecho]

Harper used Duffy to raise way too much money...wasn't his end game...he got caught!
They likely told Duffy all was good..

[bucket]

It's a distraction. They are hiding something else.

They are after Duffy for a few hundred thousand dollars?

The media has wasted more in journalist salaries covering this shit.

They and others gave missed the real story.

Probably won't know until after the election now.

[SASKFARMER3]

If it would actually do some good then yes. But a tax is a tax is a tax. This is a tax on all.

[westernvicki]

The real story is they want to get rid of the Senate.
The real story is Harper has lousy advisors in this case and this will come back to bite them, only because the real story is until the Senate is gone use some aspect of principle & integrity (which was the original intent of the house) when appointing to the Senate add this one AND pick real people who live in the province they are appointed to represent.

The real story is what goes around comes around.

[gustgd]

Perfecho your probabably right it wasn't intentional. Although maybe they are using Rahms rule

"You never let a serious crisis go to waste."

Trying to come up with a positive. Although like I said nothing will change long term unless the East gets with the program. That's unlikely. It's not only Senators that feel entitled to their entitlements.

[bucket]

WVicki

I used to think getting rid of the Senate would be a good idea.

But considering the dumb ass things parliament has done someone has to look over them. The electorate won't do it.

The Senate needs to be revamped, maybe elected to be accountable.

If Duffy had been elected he would have been booted with a whisper of this nonsense. This story is just a long distraction, someone has to dig deeper.

[foragefarmer]

Westernvicki

"The real story is Harper has lousy advisors in this case"

Ya right, Harper uses the PMO to control everyone in that Con party, which means the MPs all the way to the mail room clerk.

Harper, knew Duffy could help win the 2011 election and used it to his every advantage.

Please don't pass the blame onto others that's Harper's MO