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    Why one area is really hurting.

    It boils down to one event that hit our area and crushed ones spirit of farming.
    Some laugh like grass that our area couldn't have had as much rain as I say. Well a study done for the Quill lakes area to the north of us proves what I have been saying. The quills have raised to their highest levels and it has nothing to do with farmer draining of the land. It is all to do with excess rain the last 7 to 10 years. See normal rainfall is around 13 inches in a summer, the highest for the area was 55 and the lowest over the time was 31. The report said that the quills did spill over and head to long lake once before. Some 200 years ago or more. The area north of long lake is salty and that is when a salt lake like the quills moves from excess rain into a fresh it saturates the ground and makes a productive area not worth shit. Now back then the salt content was higher on the quills than today. The quills if they increase by some amount will flood the area to long lake again. But this time they are diluted so shouldn't affect the marine life.
    Now the question that's on all Manitoba's mind was it farmer ditching that increased the quill lakes in size.
    The study showed that after analyzing photos and sat info the quills increased in size by 1% do to farmers ditching in the area. The excess water has came from one source and that source is the sky in the form of excess rain in summer and excess snow in the winter.
    Funny the area that Richie has all their sales is in this area I call the flood zone.
    Funny two of the most famous large farms in the area Broad acre and One Earth couldn't make a go of it, its easy to see why.
    Funny after all the rain and still farmers try to go on and adapt.
    Funny thing is the Fed program for help is good for shit if you lose a slow amount of acres each year.
    So yes after 8 shit show years and crop failures and rail shit shows and every thing else that a area could receive you do lose all the positives you had. Its funny when I started nothing scared me, If something came available you tried to get it you were filled with so much piss and vinegar that nothing seemed to matter.
    Yes I thought we were a sure crop area because the 80s did not hurt us at all.
    But with time you realize mother nature still holds the cards and deals you whatever she wants.
    Now missing out on the last boom really hurts. When your acreage is cut in 1/3 and some you seeded and spent money on only to have it gone by fall your costs per acre are out of this world. You see and read all over the place how the last 8 years were the best farmers have seen in 50 years. Yet their you are wearing rubber boots stuck by the side of the road trying to get the fricking pump out before the darn beavers come back and stop some more water from moving away.
    So yes I do feel for every farmer who went through the 80s and didn't have a good out come but at least back then you had to seed at 1/2 and put every thing away because the rain never came. You didn't try to make the crop happen only to have it washed away in July.
    So yes this spring I finally like all farmers that have made it are breathing a little easier, but were all cautious, because we know that one big rain event from now till August can take us back to that place we all so much hate.
    So hopefully our attitudes will change because my good god the rain cant give us any more disasters.
    I for one am more positive this spring than I have been in a long while. Yes water is still running, Yes snow is still in fence lines and trees, Yes the ground is still cold and frozen. But the Frost is starting to come out. The Geese are back, the wind is back and even after a three day east wind we have no 3 inches rain or snow storm. Life maybe is getting back to normal.
    Yes I do admit this. Alberta land is worth more than Sask land in some places for a reason. IF you can seed early and get timely rains and off in decent time then yes your property is worth what it should be.
    So on this Saturday when I get turn a little older, maybe a little wiser, We head out as a family to one of the most peaceful places I know and enjoy the day.
    Best in 2015 and be safe its only a crop that mother nature controls the stings.

    #2
    S3 you gotta move on with this every day post on how you have experienced 8 years of flooding

    Somehow you still have made enough money to spend the winters in many different places so things couldn't have been that bad.

    Has it been perfect, no. Better or worse for some, yes.

    But time to move on, you point has been made, sorry

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      #3
      So sorry to hear that life is so hard for you. I mean when i compare the perils you have to thousands of Syrian women and children starving and being killed daily, starvation, genocide, murder in Ukraine, Blindness in millions of children from malnutrition, the genocidal mass slaughter of the tutsi tribes in Rwanda, or Darfur, or Cambodia, everyday life for women in Saudi Arabia or....

      I mean your very difficult life with a bit too much rain in it, well that's gotta be so hard. Unbearable at the best of times.

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        #4
        I agree and yes this spring is one of the best in at least 10 years. I guess I would like to warn others that Fed programs don't work if its a gradual drought. Yes a severe one year event maybe but gradual loss of income not a hope in hell. Yes it did rain as much as I said to grass from Alberta that thinks its all made up. If we get back to normal and its looking better each day. Were back from a very dark period on our farm.
        So yes your right its time to move on and that is what I am trying to do. The events have maybe strengthened the farm to some extent as we have been stream lining for a while.
        So good advise thanks and its time to move on.

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          #5
          Tweety you maybe are a nice guy but call me after you farm for 8 years of drought and tell me how well or positive you feel about farming. Yes I do feel the women that are being hurt killed ****d in war zones of the middle east are way worse than any thing I have been through, not even on the same page or book. But realize its a tail of two areas, One that has been almost wiped out by rain. Its not hard to see why the negativity.
          Have a great day. I am its a new wonderful day, year.

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            #6
            Ok SF3 an easy one, be honest, what was your average canola yield this last year - total harvested over total seeded?

            Mine was 35. Yes, many made 50, 65, or like furrow, 154 bu per acre, but where it didn't flood out, it went Ok.

            And with crop insurance, you still have costs covered even harvesting zero. If it doesn't, you farm too rich.

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              #7
              Here is a typical quarter.
              160 cult back 8 years ago.
              Now with trying every year and pumping each spring you get it ready to seed at 152 acres. You not mother nature is trying.
              You seed 150 acres with full dose of seed and fert etc.
              Crop insurance takes 8 off for flood due to 5% deductible so your paid on 2 acres 70 dollars a acre. minus your premium of 16.30 on the ten your left with 53.70 for the flood.
              Now you spray the 150 even if you lose about 5 to 10 due to june rains. So full chemical seed and fert on 150 acres.
              Then the july and late june rains hit then the august before harvest arrives.
              You harvest 121 acres if your lucky. The island that you have to cross water to get doesn't happen geese are happy.
              So your final crop is on 120 acres. Now since you lose or get shitty crop in low areas that flooded at some time in the year your final yield is based on the higher areas.
              Yes 80 x 52 is 4160 plus 40 at 15 is 600 or 4760 divided by 120 39.6 but see you spend on 150 so your yield is 31.7 Yet your expenses are based on 150 acres plus over lap even with section control you still have some double up. You do the math on expenses.
              Crop insurance pays shit all. This is based on a good quarter with good start. Get a area with more rain its the shits or poor drainage.
              So no crop insurance because over produced.
              Now in a normal year that 150 is 16 x 52 8320 bus or double production. So basically were spending as if its normal then get wiped out by summer rains that are above normal year after year and end up with half a crop with full inputs.
              This is a example but really shows what's happened. Yes maybe higher yield than some but when you add expenses vs yield your going backwards thanks to uncontrolled extreme rain.
              This is a example.

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                #8
                Crop insurance don't cover costs of barley , 2013 at $4.24 yea , 2014 at $2.83 no.

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                  #9
                  So what was your average yield?

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                    #10
                    tweety look at numbers they tell the story. IF you were 50 av yield after 10 years of flood your down to 35 with the math. Then 70% is 25. So your over.
                    But the real thing you don't see is were spending on a full crop to get half.
                    Ah farming Im off to pump water to Manitoba.

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                      #11
                      The changes made to Agristability , growing forward or what ever there called hurt , our ineligible machinery expenses alone have nearly doubled the last 10 years and in the same time allowable expenses are only covered 70% down from 85%.
                      And in this time experiencing declining reference margins, it just doesn't work after consecutive years .

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                        #12
                        total yield over total acres seeded?

                        No where does 70% of anything come into the calculation.

                        Doesn't matter, oy.

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                          #13
                          total yield over total acres seeded?

                          No where does 70% of anything come into the calculation.

                          Doesn't matter, oy.

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                            #14
                            Ok tweety I am busy so school is out! All grade ones grab your jackets and go play?

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                              #15
                              Ok tweety I am busy so school is out! All grade ones grab your jackets and go play?

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