I give up its a thread about one area that has had above normal rain for 8 years and how a recent study shows farm drainage was 1% of the cause yet Tweety dumb makes it about yields. You just amaze me.
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We have been through the worst drought since the 30's already - we've known tough times long before you, and probably will again .
I hope it quits raining - not only in your area , but MANY other areas that that been fighting mud, and you get back to normal . Don't wish drought onto the west that is just childish .
"You just wait till you get4-5 years of drought "
WTF is that ?? AGAIN - WE HAVE BEEN THERE !! With virtually zero govt assistance as well.
Good luck and have a safe spring
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You are missing an opportunity here SF3 - don't you see by simply stating what your canola yields were you could prove how badly hit your area has been?
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Furrow I know your area has seen the effects of the 80s drought a lot of excellent farmers left the industry after that period. Yes your correct their is no support as the drought like the floods slowly takes your crop no sudden and severe drop in yields. But again the thread was to show a independent study was conducted that shows why severe flooding was occurring in one area and it was not farmer draining like lots have said 1% is not a issue it was extreme rainfall in 8 to 10 of the last years. Grass has continued to say its all a dream well I guess all the people who live in the flood zone must be on crack.
Tweety is just your average every day guy who like to cut things down but puts nothing into the thread. His comment that he hopes I get flooded again yet worse than last year is really intelligent and shows what he really is. 4 to 5 year were not a problem in our area the last time drought hit but the 6th or 7th and we would have joined the club. The whole thread was to show again how Farmer draining is not the issue but excess water is and yes lots of farmers are feeling the pinch and did miss out on the best grain prices and yields in recent history.
I as a farmer never wish a disaster of any magnitude on any other farmer. Its not fun.
So have a great day I'm off to enjoy it.
Frost is still in the ground as Trac hoe hit solid ground 1 to 2 feet down all day yesterday.
Seeding is still a ways away.
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SF3 I would like to know a little more about the independent study you are quoting. Where can it be found as I would like to see a copy. Interesting to see the works being completed on #6 highway right now as the roadbed is being built up at least 4' to keep it above the levels expected this spring. It is a race against time and flood water as the west side of the pavement was under water just a few days ago.
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SF3, You are quick enough to throw out figures of 30-50 inches of rain so why not add the bu/acre figure to strengthen the case you are making?
Can we assume from your avoidance of a simple question that you did in fact have respectable canola yields last year which wouldn't help the story you are telling here…….or why else would you not answer?
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Everyone gets shit on at one time or another. Take your turn and move on. No one likes it cause in our business there is not enuf margin to overcome theses events in one year let alone years of bad luck. Makes a guy gun shy when it comes to trying new things. Always have to remember that these cycles end and will repeat in the future. Part of our business. Hopefully our real wet years are behind us for awhile. But I never hope for no rain. If this wind continues we will be looking for moisture by the end of May. Hope 2015 is good for all!
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Ok. I will offer some of the yields for those who deny there was a problem and/or do not believe us. I am in the wettest of the wet zone, east of the Quill lakes. Here we go:
2006. seeded 110 acres. Yield on all crops except wheat, ZERO. The one field of wheat I did get seeded, went about 45 somehow.
2007 Seeded a third of the land, but no tractor entered the land in 07. Seeded winter wheat in the fall of 06. Yielded 35 to 40. Canola seeded by airplane yielded between 12 and 14.
2008. Seeded everything. Oats went from 30 to 80, depending on soil texture. Yellow mustard went 18. Canola went 40 ish somehow.
2009 Seeded everything. Canola went 28-45. Oats were 120, wheat was 50.
2010. Seeded nothing. Yields were ZERO again.
2011. Seeded 70%. Wheat went 45-50, oats 60, canola went 24. Too wet.
2012. Seeded 80%. Too wet. Canola floated on, yieldes 12-14. Canola conventionally seeded went 20 ish. Too wet and aster yellows. Canary went 27. Flax, half was not harvested due to immaturity: What I did get went about 27. Cut it in half so 13.5.
2013 and 14. 2013 75% of normal yields. Affected by too much rain.
2014. Finally had a decent crop overall. Lucked out that the rain stopped in the nick of time.
So between 2006, and 2014, yields were pathetic for the most part, except for 2008, if the land got seeded at all.
Any other questions? I would be happy to share more info for those doubters.
Through this all, my Crop insurance yields are:
Canola: 39
Wheat: 54
Oats: 109
The point is, when you are used to high 40's canola, and you put inputs on for such, and you get hammered and get multiple years of under 20, it is very painful to the bottom line. The good thing about crop insurance, is that if you get nothing seeded cuz of too wet, they do not adjust your yields down using a zero for that year.
Too much rain is bad. Very, very bad.
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