Alberta: seems fitting

[Hopalong]

Supplying grain cars to RRs at little or no cost is a de facto subsidy.
Might make more sense to subsidize pipelines.

[vvalk]

Samhill. Wow. The rich don't pay there share of taxes. Maybe you should do some research and just see what percent of the total tax bill is paid by the 1% you so despise. Really if your a farmer I bet you are that 1%

[sawfly]

Oliver
Venezuela may not be the the best example.

but with millions of poor to support ,
maybe they are better off than your let the corporations
plunder at will sentiment. they could be worse off.

how do you know? i don't.

but some where there is the middle of the road./ approach

How much oil did Norway pump in the last 30 years, and how much did Alberta
and how much did each collect.
there has to be a lesson there .

the Conservative argument ,
that you should give away everything , and live off the work it creates .
has it's flaws.



now on Taxes
there are a lot of taxes where the net beneficiary s are the rich.
(or the ones that make the rules)

How many years was the world price for glyphosate like 3$ / liter and we paid 12-20$. that is a tax .]
select was 3$ in the US we paid 9$.
a tax

Even the govt. setting up their corporate medical pot business is a tax. ( lots of folks would grow it for less)
( and now the govt./ taxpayer has to pay for police and prisons to enforce this tax )

self regularizing professions are another tax.

if the collage of pharmacy has 600
qualified applicants and they only take 150.
that too is a tax
, regulating the supply, keeping a pharmacists value up.

the new seed laws , those too are taxes.
not to build roads or hospitals

, but to build business revenue for the corporations that call the tune in Ottawa.

How many billions in tax did we farmers pay the last few years, to the grain co.s for bad basis.

another tax our Harper govt. thinks is just fine.
( you get a 50$ tax credit for your kid in sports, but lose 100,000$ in basis )

maybe if we got to keep more of what we actually earn .

we would not feel so bad about paying taxes
for medicare, roads , welfare etc.














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[samhill]

VValk, there aren't many I despise, certainly not the rich, I 'd like to be one and maybe we're talking about different rich, or not . But I know how hard it is for many wage earners in this country, and taxes are a big part of it. Taxes that aren't listed as taxes like EI that lots have to pay without any hope of collecting if they lose their job.
But the uber rich don't pay much in taxes compared to Joe Lunchbox.
This is a country rich in resources that we give away for the wages to produce, and then tax the worker for doing it.
People who burn other people alive in cages I do despise.

[blackpowder]

Agree with sawfly this time.
And I could add a few of my own.