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    #25
    Yes, free markets with government bailing out auto manufacturers, banks and manufacturers of choice.
    It is amazing how skewed defending the "free markets" has become....and yet any form of socialism is berated...
    Beginning to believe free enterprise and socialism are the same thing.... one is for corps and one is for the masses....

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      #26
      Assiniboa capital was just a shadow for some political payback and now that's done so they will close up the loophole.

      That's not a free market, that is manipulating the market.

      Saskatchewan and federal governments and the people there okayed the deal. You have to think they were in on it.

      Funny how potash Corp was a strategic resource but our land isn't.

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        #27
        May have to argue that bucket.

        Dont believe any of us have seen the free market

        Qe is a symptom of a disease that had to happen to prolong the life if the system

        Ten years ago there where guys saying eventually the debt had to be monetized but mainstream laughed. The only thing they had. In common was the horror of it
        Now here we are

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          #28
          Agree that free market is, not unlike democracy, as much an ideal as a goal we ever reach.
          Neither is perfect but both are better than alternatives.
          Part that irks is suggestion that farmers are exploited more so than other members of society.

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            #29
            Some here talk of small crops = higher prices = better profit. So let me guess, you cut back on your fert, seed and chem ahead of time? sea,s like some really dumb comments

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              #30
              The foundation of some republics where in design a frame work so the public wouldnt cross out of bounds and screw it all up.

              Fascism/corporatism and socialism now exist in the same time and place guess we get to see how it plays out hopefully not war but everthing is pointing in that direction. If it comes to that the boys are staying home and I'm going figure they will need more middle aged guys and young farmers can stay home like last time lol

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                #31
                Vvalk

                As soon as john deere suspects a downturn they cut production.

                They allow older units to gain value by not having so many new ones available. And keeping the cost if a new one high by lack of supply.


                Produce less make more.

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                  #32
                  United States was fairly heavy into set aside programs for a few decades, idea was to lower production and increase prices.
                  Farmers tended to use more inputs on acres they did plant so programs had limited success and have been mostly abandoned.

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                    #33
                    Pisses me off if you don t sign these *** contracts they never take the grain, but then again I had a contract for dec delivery that never went until march. And had to sign that at a *** discount to the march price also.

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