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    Scary How good conditions are!

    Well to all the haters out their have a great Sunday.
    To every one else it just amazes me how some of you just cant get your head around that the last 8 to 10 years were not normal. Some of us were almost wiped off the face of the farming map. But were still told it didn't take place it didn't happen by some.
    So now when I say we are finally back again the haters come out and say you will get the same as us.
    Maybe not as we are finding.
    Frost was min to non existent in our area. Plants are rooting down and water is slowly drying up. We will need some moisture in June to get the crop to the next stage but that's it.
    Like the topic its kind of scary considering where we have been. Its tempting to get over excited but we still are one three inch rain away from a disaster again. Yes the longer we go with out rain the better we can take a huge rain event.
    June is our wettest month and it arrives tomorrow so all bets are off.
    But having a plant root for a change is a good thing. Having crops actually grow around a wet area is something we haven't seen in a long while. Now Seeding to shallow etc its not a time to miss a step.
    So yes I feel real bad for all that are experiencing a different season it sucks real bad.
    But always remember we live in Western Canada one of the hardest places in the world to grow a crop. Mother nature controls more of your final results than any crop advisor, Seed, chem fert etc.
    She holds all the cards.
    Time will tell if the new varieties that we are using can adapt to a dryer climate as they were created and bred in the wet years.
    Any one can get a crop to germinate if it rains every night. Hell canola grew one year on top of the ground it was so wet then rooted in. Rain that comes normal makes any seeding problems go away.
    Simply its about adapting to weather and going with it. Yes I bitched about rain but after 8 to 10 years of the shit you begin to wonder if its all worth it.
    So far it looks like it might be out year to pull one off, time will tell but for now its Scary how good the conditions are. Fingers Crossed.

    #2
    Sask3. I remember someone, actually you, complaining how insensitive people were talking about how good their crops were when you guys were getting flooded. You never seems to figure out that you generalize too much and you never remember what you have said in the past. In fact I think your a hypocrite and your "normal" posts are F'en ridiculous considering casts amounts of record dry and record amounts of widespread freezes.

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      #3
      Yea V and guys like you said it cant be that wet in our area.
      Its about telling farmers how
      Weather and Mother Nature Run farming in Canada.
      Not the newest piece of Equipment or Farm Advisor or Fert or Seed.
      What I am saying is this spring for some reason were Back and its a real good feeling to finally see crops growing in Rows and water going away. Creeks not running all year round.
      Yes its dry in some places but some have for years said this is the new normal. Were a wet country. Ha is what I have said all along its a dry country with its wettest month being June. Where Rain makes grain not the shit we had for the last 8 to 10 that wasn't normal.
      So yes as a farmer I understand what farming in Canada is. Most specialist and Advisors don't and that's my point. Its about getting money from farmers.
      Telling Young farmers that the past is farming reality is wrong. Teaching them about what has happened before in Western Canada makes them stronger to take on years like this.
      Its froze before in Canada last time I checked the weather. Its been dry in Canada last time I checked the weather and for some its been flood zone for years in Canada. That's Info farmers need and they need to adapt to each year. Reseeding thousands of acres of Canola June first because it wont be a pretty crop and get the max yield because of frost is not a smart idea unless whole fields are gone. You have 90 days to get that crop to harvest now.
      Been their done that and each time taking off and go fishing for a week is probably better than hammering in canola again into a dry seed bed. Yes if you have less than one plant per foot or two foot then maybe use a disc drill and hammer it in. That did work as some plants that didn't freeze made it.
      So yes Some of us are Happy about finally getting to play like the rest and have a normal year.

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        #4
        I guess V the one thing that really pisses me off about farming is all the Bull shit I heard, Read and saw at field days how this was the new normal. Bigger higher yielding crops all over the place.
        Well I said it before and I will say it again, The last 8 to 10 were not normal. This year is closer to normal than most. Our year might turn to shit if the rains come and are to heavy. Time will tell.
        My point being in all the above is its farming and mother nature runs the show in Canada. You have one chance to get a crop each year and if one step is screwed some where along the way your yield is screwed.
        So yes time will tell the outcome of 2015. We will see. Good luck to all things do change as were witnessing this year. As we always are one rain away from a disaster in Canada.

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          #5
          SF3, Why do you endlessly post what's going on with your farm on a marketing site?

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            #6
            Just what is normal? One lifetime? ones personal exp? One century? or mabey hundreds or yrs.
            My personal exp says normal is wetter than it has been for the last 15 yr as most of my 51 crops were wet falls and later springs, but that is only my exp on my own operation.

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              #7
              Sask by any chance could you drive all over western Canada and give us a report like you used to do.

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                #8
                Sf3. You say everyone says this wet weather is the new normal but you know better. The real normal is what you see from Regina to whatever lake you talk about. So your using 50-75 years as the normal averages? Not 10000 years ago where I farm there was a 1 mile thick ice shield. What do we know as normal. Just keep up your talk of normal weather this year and see where it gets you

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                  #9
                  Only said normal 5 times there

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                    #10
                    SF3, it is not scary, it is MARVELOUS.

                    What do you make of the 52 bushel average canola yields a certain group is yapping about? lol.

                    I agree entirely on what you say especially about reseeding. I have had canola with less than a plant per square foot due to frost, still yield forty.

                    It is not about prettyness, it is about the end result. My recreational tillage neighbors, have canola seeded on barley stubble that you can hardly tell what it was, looks like summerfallow. My next door field, seeded into rank barley residue, is not losing moisture.

                    He wants rain. He NEEDS rain. I do not want or need rain, it is mud an inch below the surface. His is dry concrete, relatively. Lay down in his field, feel the wind. Lay down in my 18 inch wheat stubble, no wind.

                    My point? I do agree for here at least, this is far more typical, and no til will shine again.

                    For those who are dry or frozen, it sucks. If you had a decent last several years, you should be able to keep on chugging.

                    Mother nature rules. Ahh, farming! Do not be like the canola council, and assume it is always going to rain, or not freeze, or be just right for decades. Crap happens to us all.

                    Plan for it. We all get our triumphs, we all have our disasters. Good luck to all this year.

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                      #11
                      Well v last time I checked the Dinos weren't really farming back then. It was grass that every once in a while burnt from Calgary to Winterpeg and across the north from Edmonton to Swan.
                      Since farming Is what I am talking about this is like when I started and what I am saying is the last 10 where we flooded out year in year out and every one else got just enough to produce a bumper crop is not normal.
                      Were back and sorry it pisses you off.
                      I put in my 10 of shit crops now some one else can take up the torch.
                      Basically its also about giving farmers false hope that the last 10 were normal growing years and all the science and Tec had come so far as they should and industry should plan for this every year. Oh and one area would go back to lakes and swamp because it just rains to much their.
                      So have a great Sunday I did in the City doing my yard and will be back struggling with mother nature come Monday.

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                        #12
                        SF3, are you glad you burned?

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                          #13
                          Would not discount Canola Council forecast for longer term yields but would not expect it every year.
                          We are in traditional growing area and suffered considerable yield loss from excess moisture past few years.
                          Would also expect loss with return of dry years but not nearly as much loss as in eighties with our much better moisture conservation.
                          Better to plan for a bit extra capacity in handling and transportation system.

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                            #14
                            Still happy I worked and burnt no

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                              #15
                              Yes I'm very happy would do again. Lots of moisture below that needs to get used up.

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