We need Aid !!!!!

[agstar77]

Some of these large operations advertise how smart and efficient they are, i.e. New Holland Smart. Well let them prove it without picking my pocket.

[cottonpicken]

That makes you a fascist or a communist Cuban you pick they both come from hell.

How blind is everyone not see how fundamentally screwed our economy is. No free market no sound money socialists and fascists marching down the street stealing everything from everyone and in their minds thinking its right.

We are about to hit the wall and the blame game starts when alls they need to do is look in the mirror.

[freewheat]

If a farm 6000 or less is a small farm, WTH is a 2000 acre farm that is profitable for a family of six? Irrelevant?

I guess so. Under 6000 a small farm. lololololol. Every one of my dozen young neighbors is a small farm, most of them half the size of the alleged, "small farm". lol

Maybe the "big farms" should take some pointers from us, mini-irrelevant-useless-loser farms.

[Cattleman]

Wow, I probably fall into the rinky dink farm category - hell I even pitch some bales lol

I know I mean f-all to input suppliers, and to be honest some times I leave there thinking how good of service I do get for the little I buy.

Given your last response cuban, I feel even less sorry for the "big" guys.

Lots of people in the oil patch without jobs, shit happens...

Seems a lot of common sense went out the window on this last grain run, and I sure am not paying for it. Number one step in risk management is manage your balance sheet relative to your outlay.

Don't want to sound like a total dink, but this could turn into a better opportunity than I thought.

[freewheat]

To answer your question. Yes I think us "small" guys have a huge impact on sales, because if we are not treated well, word travels fast among us. I deal with input people who do go the extra mile no matter who you are, or how big you are. It just doesn't matter to them. And that is how it should be.

Saying the guys who take risks and expand need a payout more, is just totally unreal. Often they are the stupidest risk takers of all.

[Cattleman]

Oh, I forgot.... Yes, I proudly don't feed the monster.

[blackpowder]

I guess I get what cub is trying to say. I just dont agree with the logic.
Bail out GM but not any small cap oil gas producer. Fact is the acres themselves arent going anywhere. Economic spin off remains same. Applying 80/20 rule would bail out Gary Pike. Suppliers find the non Pikes more reliable. So do your small towns.
Reprint the bumper stickers
O Lord, Let there be another boom. I promise not to screw this one up.

[freewheat]

10-4, cattleman. Thanks for joining the conversation. I am not positive this cuban guy is not trolling with comments like that!

[furrowtickler]

Your last comment speaks volume there Cuban - RIP ..
This is about debt load in you mind and the wreck comin - I agree - but who racked up the debt and why should tax payers divy up for the over extending of some ??
Your reasons are laughable - and beyond agrogant

RD414 - a shot of reality sucks sometimes
Our crop is a very long ways from the bin and we may end up getting sfa as well, but I would not be crying for aid . A few rains or not would not change my opinion at all . There are insurance programs in place for short term droughts .

[cuban_assassin]

I am not trolling!!!!
I am simply pointing out that the large farms that spend the most on equipment,labor and inputs will impact the economy much more than the small farmer. Is the farmer who buys one new piece of equipment every five years from a dealer and does his own repairing enough to keep those guys in business.... No!!!
It's the bto's that roll equipment regularly that keep the doors open. If these boys suffer the dealers suffer and so on!!
We need to realize that the average size farm is growing and the industry is gearing up to meet the needs of the big boys. The little man who doesn't expand or adopt some form of change is quite irrelevant to the industry!!
The government will respond when the guys managing multi million dollar farms start raising hell! Unfortunately they do not listen to the little man who is for the most part replaceable.
2000 acre farms are not sustainable in the eyes of government.

[cuban_assassin]

Unfortunately the large farms spend the most and stimulate the most economic growth and therefore will be propped up by government. The guy who is rolling the most money through his hands gets the most attention. That isn't a opinion it's a fact!
Don't shoot the messenger boys I don't like what's happening either but if government doesn't consider action I would bet things will get really bad really fast. And for those of you who see this as a good reset and that you will not suffer as well...... Careful what u wish for! Remember shit runs down hill!!

[furrowtickler]

Lol - nice fantasy world there Cuban - wow..