We need Aid !!!!!

[furrowtickler]

Agreed blackpowder - well said

[cuban_assassin]

I have just one question, do any of you see the big picture here. This drought involves millions of acres some of which will produce nothing. Therefore all effected producers will dramatically reduce their spending. We are talking in excess of a billion dollars in Sask alone. Think about the economic impact that will have. Now if your government why not throw some money at the problem. If farmers gets a dollar they'll spend it if not two dollars. This is a investment into the provincial economy.

[bucket]

Some will learn the hard way that buying out the neighborhood or watch it disappear will never be a good thing long term.

Economically or socially eventually it's a pain in the ass. Your retailers move because they can send a semi drop of your supplies.

Sometime study the effects of consolidation of elevators - it's the same thing.

Payments bad......yup and when some lose the next in line generation to take over over buy you out because there is sweet **** all to do out here..... well maybe we can all go sit in a provincially funded football field 9 times a year and call it an economic benefit.

Anyone getting the picture. Or ate you pulling a gerry and sticking your head in the sand about the effect of community in a year like this.

[ado089]

I'll make it through this year for sure. Half of last year's canola still in the bin, spray bill under$15/acre, only 50lbs of N in the ground. Next year scares me if it stays dry. Might bleed some money into dad's operation while I'm still liquid. Shit crops for 5 years makes it tough but many have had years of high profits, I have no sympathy for them. Run a business not a lottery folks.

[agstar77]

You don't see the big picture. Big spending is one of the problems, too much debt, go big or go home mentality. I can see help for cattle guys since you can't rebuild herds easily. As for the rest of the big operators, somebody will farm the land with cheaper equipment and cheaper loans.

[jamesb]

guys are dreaming if they think there will be a cash bailout. As others said that ship sailed years ago. we can agree that crop insurance isnt ideal and ag stability as it is now will not trigger but guys should have been putting money in agri invest. No govt will pay an acreage payment ever again imo.

[LEP]

Cuban

Some of us went through the eighties. The sky is not falling.

Equipment will be sold and bought by someone. Land no longer rented will be picked up by another. Inputs will continue to be bought for the land. Just by better managers.

I suggest you seek help.

[farming101]

There is no doubt the last 10 or so years have NOT been a windfall for everyone. For example cattle guys are just getting back on their feet.

But when things get overheated there needs to be a reset.

One dry year should not destroy those who know about the ups and downs of farming.

Drought and crop failures are a major reason why Saskatchewan looks the way it does today.

[blackpowder]

Fine then. How much per acre would make a difference? 10? 30? 60? 100?
Who qualifys? To what acre limit?
Jesus, where have you been the last 30 *** years? Ànd your saying saving the Walmarts accelerate the economy short term greater than saving the mom and pop stores?
Fk Im starting a medicinal grow op.

[binthere]

cubin assasin sounds like he firmly believes the retoric gary was spewing out at an oat grower convention in red deer. back in 1998 gary was saying how only bigger more efficient farmers should recieve any subsidies. oh gary who?

[oneoff]

If every farmer was mega sized, over leveraged and the self important magalomaniac that probably goes with that lifestyle and goals......the support ratio of this thread would be totally different.

Perhaps a simple example is in order.


Why would any farmer argue against everyone paticippating in risking more than $ 40 (or less) input costs for off patent soybean technology when the supposed newest RR2 alternative involves an additional $80 outlay for AT BEST (MAYBE) a 15% greater yield return.

When without a pencil; it should be evident that sometimes 15% extra production is often the difference between good/piss poor prices and profit/disasterous economic times.

And in Canada it was apparently 2011 when the RR1 patent protection began to lapse. Apparently in the USA it was only in 2014 that the same stage was reached.

There should have been farmer representative groups fighting tooth and nail for these cost saving and legal advantages at the earliest possible dates.

Then a whole lot more farms may well be more viable on their own and more able to withstand setbacks such as we are all experiencing to varying degrees.

Just an example of how the farming sector could use brains to ameliorate factors that are indeed outside what comes from the skies and are imposed by world economic direction.

[tweety]

Solutions. That's just not done here.