We need Aid !!!!!

[agstar77]

You don't see the big picture. Big spending is one of the problems, too much debt, go big or go home mentality. I can see help for cattle guys since you can't rebuild herds easily. As for the rest of the big operators, somebody will farm the land with cheaper equipment and cheaper loans.

[jamesb]

guys are dreaming if they think there will be a cash bailout. As others said that ship sailed years ago. we can agree that crop insurance isnt ideal and ag stability as it is now will not trigger but guys should have been putting money in agri invest. No govt will pay an acreage payment ever again imo.

[LEP]

Cuban

Some of us went through the eighties. The sky is not falling.

Equipment will be sold and bought by someone. Land no longer rented will be picked up by another. Inputs will continue to be bought for the land. Just by better managers.

I suggest you seek help.

[farming101]

There is no doubt the last 10 or so years have NOT been a windfall for everyone. For example cattle guys are just getting back on their feet.

But when things get overheated there needs to be a reset.

One dry year should not destroy those who know about the ups and downs of farming.

Drought and crop failures are a major reason why Saskatchewan looks the way it does today.

[blackpowder]

Fine then. How much per acre would make a difference? 10? 30? 60? 100?
Who qualifys? To what acre limit?
Jesus, where have you been the last 30 *** years? Ànd your saying saving the Walmarts accelerate the economy short term greater than saving the mom and pop stores?
Fk Im starting a medicinal grow op.

[binthere]

cubin assasin sounds like he firmly believes the retoric gary was spewing out at an oat grower convention in red deer. back in 1998 gary was saying how only bigger more efficient farmers should recieve any subsidies. oh gary who?

[oneoff]

If every farmer was mega sized, over leveraged and the self important magalomaniac that probably goes with that lifestyle and goals......the support ratio of this thread would be totally different.

Perhaps a simple example is in order.


Why would any farmer argue against everyone paticippating in risking more than $ 40 (or less) input costs for off patent soybean technology when the supposed newest RR2 alternative involves an additional $80 outlay for AT BEST (MAYBE) a 15% greater yield return.

When without a pencil; it should be evident that sometimes 15% extra production is often the difference between good/piss poor prices and profit/disasterous economic times.

And in Canada it was apparently 2011 when the RR1 patent protection began to lapse. Apparently in the USA it was only in 2014 that the same stage was reached.

There should have been farmer representative groups fighting tooth and nail for these cost saving and legal advantages at the earliest possible dates.

Then a whole lot more farms may well be more viable on their own and more able to withstand setbacks such as we are all experiencing to varying degrees.

Just an example of how the farming sector could use brains to ameliorate factors that are indeed outside what comes from the skies and are imposed by world economic direction.

[tweety]

Solutions. That's just not done here.

[bucket]

Every good solution farmers have seem to get gutted by beaucrats or politicians stepping up the ladder.

If there was still GRIP, we wouldn't be worried about rain or lack of.

Problem is every farm program is designed to fail as opposed designed for a failure.

If they would get a program that would allow farmers to set aside incomes, tax free for years like what are coming as opposed to driving an economy with tax reducing leases etc. We might be better off.

But for the most part farmers are a cash cow for the economy and that won't change much during the upcoming consolidation.

There will be many early to mid 50 guys walk away along with their next generation because the modest changes they made dont make sense with lower drought induced yields and grain prices that are standardized/set against other places in the world still using hoes and hands.


In other words our efficiency gains are not being rewarded in any shape or form.

Unless you consider the accelerated pace to 30000 acre farms a reward?

[MBgrower]

Cuban, sounds like your in big financial trouble after the best 5 farming years since the mid 70's. Id say you messed up, dont expect tax payers to bail u out. Perhaps farming isnt for you.