Truth about Agri programs needs to finally be exposed to the public

[binthere]

coverage based on previous years or multiple years of production is what is the down fall of any program. any coverage should be based on in put costs. this deters the scabs that abuse any program and promotes better farming practices.

[Richard5]

Bin there, do you understand the rules of the program? Because it's exactly what you are asking

Anyone that is a half decent farmer will have a achieved a margin higher under the old rules verses the new margin calculation that is based on eligible costs. It is the lower off the two that you use.

I think the program will still have more benefit than many of you in the drought area give it credit for

[Hopperbin]

Well said Richard. The ones to complain though are the mixed operation farmers. Perhaps they don't complain on agriville cause their tooooo busy working. Really if we make it on cost of.production that is ridiculous. Think of the corruption then. Win some lose some. Just do the best.

[Richard5]

Good point hopper but I throw this back at you

If a mixed farm has poor crop but good returns on livestock then what is the true loss? One offsets the other. If the livestock were not there the true loss would be larger and the program would cover about fifty percent of the loss. Although it's more work, I'd rather have both enterprises helping me stay profitable

If both enterprises suffer a bad year the program will provide benefits.

[sumdumguy]

Richard, the calf crop offsets the grain loss, you are correct.

[farmaholic]

Do what ever it takes to keep that ****ing grain farm afloat. Raise livestock, different livestock and lots of each!!!! Work off the farm in the winter, send the wife to work. Have chickens so the kids can gather eggs and be able to play hockey and eat rink burgers. No life, no hot holidays, work work work to pay them bills....keep them ****ing parasites well fed so they're there next year so you can do it all over again....it's your job! No-one said it was going to be easy.

[fjlip]

Well said farma, many are/have done that lifestyle. Sad that twists of fate/weather/markets make primary food producers live to feed the system.

[hobbyfrmr]

Farmaholic, that is life. We do it because we chose to farm instead of join mainstream employment. I chose to wean myself off the parasites and I am not any worse for it. I am still making changes to move up the chain, it has been a 24 year occupation, most of it uncomfortable with income/expenses.
Maybe because its summer time, I notice a trend that the 20 somethings want to put in a little time/ effort then smear their paw print on any piece of paper that will get them a depreciable asset for recreating, or doing anything but provide value for themselves or society. Sometimes you have do a little hard work longer than you expected and acknowledge that money is an excellent servant but a very ruthless master. Much to the contrary of todays entitlement attitude, it is still ok to work the best you can and manage finances.