Choosing canola varieties

[tweety]

How do you choose your variety?

Is it brand loyalty? Rep?

The slick marketing brochures with bars showing three times the yield of all the other competitors?

[freewheat]

First, I choose which one based on herbicide rotation concerns. Then I pick the cheap one! In the RR year, I grow HEAR for Bunge usually. I do not chase the dream that the latest is better for a few more bucks a lb. I could grow ac excel as well as these new fandangled varieties, and my dad could grow 45 bushel westar before that!

[furrowtickler]

Choose varieties that have balls - simply take a drive In your neighbourhood - ask questions . Huge differences this year

[SASKFARMER3]

I think both free and Furrow hit it right on.
Drive around in a wet year and see what is good and bad then do the same in a dry year their are differences. RR produce less plant mass and flower faster than Liberty. Some others produce lots of plant and not much yield.
We do 1/3 of canola as RR and rest liberty because the liberty cleans up land. Funny you would think round up does but liberty with two pass does awesome then hit with RR in fall and you have a spotless field for next crop.
Clearfields are another rotation option.
Then its program.
Rep.
Retailer.

[Guest]

we are getting less and less Bayer products all the time , simply because of liberty weed control being a joke and the arrogance of bayer. what we do grow of theirs is older varieties like L120 or L130 . also that ad of theirs on the radio now is really odd , making fun of people with addictions . once again displays their arrogance ! also now this year their fungicides are $2.50 an acre more than BASF. hardly anyone is using their products here at all . like you , free , we grow a lot of IP varieties for bunge . locked in price won't be as good this year , but no risk and it sure was nice having hear canola picked up on farm last year for $15/bu . for your question ,tweety, we never go for the new flashy varieties , always tested and true ones

[Guest]

sk3 , what do you do with liberty to make it work , we are getting worse results every year ? first pass was good , second pass a joke , 10 gpa, 1.65 lpa liberty , centurion and amigo

[Guest]

and second pass was textbook perfect day according to liberty spraying recommendations . never see bayer rep around here , one retailer been waiting 3 weeks for him to look at fields

[farmaholic]

The guys around here form a bit.of a group and watch afew top performing fields. After harvest, taking into account what was added for inputs and the yeild results and the quality of the seed produced, namely looking for big uniform seed, they choose the best variety that way. Then later the best gets cleaned and everyone picks up what they spoke for.

[tweety]

caseih do you worry about resistance issues spraying a group 1 with liberty and then again in cereals, or do you use group 2 in cereal?

[farmaholic]

Group 27(Velocity) in cereals, expensive but use it!!!!

[Guest]

try to use a different group in cereals

[ColevilleH2S]

Does Pyrasulfotole in Velocity M3 have and grassy weed activity?

[freewheat]

Thing is too, when mixing liberty with a group one, it is far better to do that than to use a group one alone for resistance avoidance. So IMO, the concern is not much of an issue.

[farmaholic]

Agricultural use[edit]
Pyrazolate, pyrazoxyfen and benzofenap were first commercialized in the Japanese rice market starting in 1980, but became less important when sulfonylurea herbicides were introduced. In 1990 sulcotrione was introduced for post- emergence weed control in corn. Isoxaflutole opened the market more broadly for HPPD inhibitors when it was introduced in 1996 for corn and sugarcane, and for use as a pre-emergence herbicide that could control broadleaf weeds as did sulcotrione, but also additional grass weeds. Benzobicyclon, was introduced in 2001 for control of broadleaf weeds and some sedges that are problems in rice, that had become resistant to sulfonylurea herbicides. Mesotrione was introduced in 2002 and like sulcotrione is a triketone, so it is effective on the same weeds and crops, but is more potent, making it more useful in mixes with other herbicides - an important for factor for fulling controlling weeds and preventing the development of resistance. It has become the biggest selling member of the HPPD class.[1]

Topramezone was introduced in 2006 for corn and soy, and is the most potent HPPD inhibitor, but has serious carry-over issues especially for soybean in US, where the minimum time from application to planting is 18 months. Tembotrione was introduced in 2007 for corn, and works against key grass species and importantly, kills broadleaf weeds, including glyphosate-, ALS- and dicamba-resistant weeds. Used with safeners there are no crop-rotation restrictions. Pyrasulfotole was also introduced in 2007 for cereals in North America, and was the first new class of herbicide in cereals in many years, and an important advance against weeds that had become resistant to existing herbicides. It remains active in the soil during the growing season and when used with safeners, it does not damage crops and there are no crop-rotation restrictions.[1]

[farmaholic]

Sorry, it is only the group 2 in Velocity not the group 27. Supposedly not even any synergy between the two for wild oats but there is for the broadleaves.

My apologies