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    #13
    Pourfarmer, the difference is that I don't think I'm producing a product that is killing my customers. I'm just not getting the full potential from all my acres production wise. This is in contrast to some that *think* their product is unhealthy yet are satisfied to continue producing it that way and selling for people to consume.

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      #14
      Read a while back about the importance of humans and soil microbes for health also grounding and balancing ions in our bodies. If you or your kid gets car sick drag a peice of metal it really works. Probably bias my kids compared to city kids make them look like a bunch of handicaps.

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        #15
        Previous posts suggest you may very well be killing people in the sense you're not producing as much as possible. Those kids in Asia are going to bed hungry because your only getting 30bu instead of 60.

        I don't think it would be too hard to find a post where you suggest organic production can never feed the world, so why would you contributing to food shortages? You also mention the environmental destruction organic farming causes with its intensive tillage, and don't forget the soil mining. There is also all the "misinformation and scare tactics" you ridicule so heavily yet you participate in the same system for monetary reasons? If this post isn't the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is.

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          #16
          I'm glad you've finally come around to agreeing with me Pourfarmer.

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            #17
            huh? I'm saying you can look to yourself to answer the question you initially posted. Farmers do it for $$$$$$$$$$$$$... nothing more, nothing less.

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              #18
              There are plenty of ways to make money farming that align with your belief system.

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                #19
                Exactly! So why are you producing food in for a system you don't believe in? Honest question.

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                  #20
                  Suppose to be a / between in and for.

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                    #21
                    It was at the landowners request and I didn't mind the idea as a form of diversification.

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                      #22
                      Oh so the landlord had a gun to your head, you couldn't have said "no thanks I'll find land that fits my belief system" and paid higher rent prices then the next guy to acquire said land?

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                        #23
                        Had some connection with on farm food safety programs.

                        Concerns with grains were pesticide and naturally occurring mycotoxins and heavy metals.

                        On own farm,have made major investments in grain drying and storage to reduce risk of ochratoxin A, a known carcinogen.

                        Try to use and follow guidelines on fungicides to reduce fusarium and resulting vomitoxin.

                        There are more examples of science based things we do to reduce toxins and produce safe food.

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                          #24
                          I moved to organic farming as a viable business model for a small acre farm. Ergo: for the money.
                          Over time I see what "real people" are demanding, this reinforces what I am doing now. I dont look at conventional farmers as the enemy or killing others, I look at the rest of the conventional industry with contempt and disdain. The conventional farmer is making his living the best way he knows how. The retailers and line companies are truly milking the farmers for all they are worth. Once a person steps away from fertilizer and spray and seed patents it be ome crystal clear. I am more than happy to grow lower yeilds than my neighbours and sell for more. I think the end result is very similar.

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