Cgc reclassing certain varieties starting aug 2017

[farmaholic]

What are the options to the solid stem variety Lillian?

[bucket]

Farmaholic

Just wait for a new name.

The technology and variety already exists.

Just needs to be reconstituted by the seed growers.

[SASKFARMER3]

Before we know it it will be shit varieties of cheap feed wheat so our flower is like shitty USA flower.
Family use to load the car with bags of flower when they headed to Phoenix. American family and friends asked for bags.

[bucket]

Jwab

Nope..

And I don't think they care either.

[bucket]

Jwab

To your first question above.

[wmoebis]

There is no way of policing under the system we have today.
If a producer signs an affidavit that he is delivering CWRS and later on (say) Lillian is traced back to his sample which is going to stand up in court? Farmers signed affidavit or a sample of grain that has been stored in an elevator back room mixed with hundreds of other samples and accessible to all elevator personnel and not under lock and key. If there is other classes mixed the elevator should have down graded to feed at time of delivery. Case closed!

I was in an elevator one day when a producer came in to complain that his CWRS was down graded for other cereal grains (barley), he said he had never grown barley or had it on his farm. I even remember sample #543, elevator went into back room pulled a little sample marked #543 when it was opened it was 100% barley. Elevator said samples must have gotten mixed up.

The truck before him likely had delivered barley.
So, was some left in sampler was it mixed in the pail or equipment or how did the barley get mixed in his wheat?

The elevator is suppose to keep a 1000g sample, all his samples were only 500g so he couldn't even send it to CGC for reinspec or have an inquiry done. Elevator changed grade. Barley and wheat are easy to distinguish not diff varieties of HRS.

The elevator can't visually tell the diff of varieties, there is no inward inspection at terminal so there is no chance of catching problems before it is being loaded onto boat. A little late then I think.

[ajl]

This is UPOV91 at work which everyone except Tom can plainly see. The good old workhorse varieties are banned and you have to line the input suppliers pockets as others have stated. Crony capitalism at it finest. Well at least I can save the 5 minutes in the polling booth this fall.

[ColevilleH2S]

Oh great! Adding more wheat classes should really help the with rail and port terminal efficiency eh? Keep them ships waiting.

[wmoebis]

Elevators aren't built to handle this many classes of wheat along with all the other new crops we are growing, In a timely matter that suits our selling needs.
They will be stretching delivery times to 180 days after contracted date just to get enough to make a ship load.
But I guess we can negotiate contract or don't sell to them.

[farmaholic]

jwab, Warburtons or their "handling Agent" will pay you a "token PREMIUM"(having trouble keeping a straight face) for growing specific varieties. I need to see a much bigger carrot please.

This is a slippery ****ing slope. Read all the comments regarding the "downsized" CGC. Variety deregistration, affidavits.... someone is right, it isna race to the bottom. Competing with wheats from other nations that was substandard to ours until we decided quality isn't an issue anymore. Who is watching?

[farmaholic]

Is Elwin accepting unmarked stuffed envelopes?

[farmaholic]

Maybe the CGC is looking out for our best interest but have to agree how did they make registration in the first place, I guess when you change the rules some varieties can't play.

Or is it because Dr. Wheat Belly (William Davis) said....

Just kidding, need to read more.

[sumdumguy]

We are being shoved into the UPOV chute.

[TOM4CWB]

We went all through this here before seeding on March 18 2015, "Gluten strength CPSR/CWRS some varieties ..."CPS Red, Is Awned (A)Foremost is substandard... likely to go to General Purpose (GP) class.

New Variety to be released for spring 2016 (A)Penhold... has gluten strength to meet class standards.

CWRS:

Not Awned (NA) Harvest is low... likely to go to GP Class

Redwater, Muchmore, and Brandon, are not conclusively too low... but are on the low side and need more testing.

Lillian, Unity, Kane, and Mckenzie are all on the low side of the gluten... and may cause concern.

(NA)Utmost, (NA)Plentiful, (A)Stettler, are all good for the new standard being purposed

Utmost Midge tolerant strong gluten... as does CDC Go which has NO PBR and is basically a public variety."

Everyone complains that we get less for our HRS than US growers... we had the 'CWB single desk' ...going for lower gluten strength... to be different than the US. If we expect to come close to US wheat prices, we need the same quality and supply assurance system. Since the US has a huge pool of milling wheat available every year... the will set the standards for millers with tweaks for local markets.

[wmoebis]

Tom are you saying that our CWRS is of lower milling and baking quality than the regular milling wheat in the USA that is selling for more $?

That is not what CIGI has been telling us.