JRI and CLEVER

[BreadWinner]

NEWS FLASH the canola in elevators allready has QUINCLORAC already in it!!!!!! This is why the whole situation doesn't make a whole lot of sense....are these companies trying to pass liabilities onto farmers when Japan figures this out????
How is it that when this product was in the cue for registration the elevators didn't let the PMRA know they would have canola marketing issues due to Japan not having MRLs for this chemical???
In my opinion farmers arn't to blame for using a chemical that was fully approved for use on canola in Canada. They buck is being passed onto Farmers and that is not RIGHT!!!! Being a approved chemical the export markets will have to change because contamination has happened and it will continue to happen. Something smells rotten in this whole deal!!!

[furrowtickler]

What other line companies have this non - cleaver agreement in place for the new crop year ? Just curious ,
It was the ADM notification about not accepting clever treated canola that realy set off alarm bells . What is ADM position for new crop year now ?

[BreadWinner]

JRI, LDM,ADM are taking the do not want it approach. Talked with Viterra Rep, so far they are getting you to sign a form stating it was sprayed it and they are going to bin seperate. So far that is the right approach so they can direct it into the markets that have a MRL.

[wmoebis]

Are you willing on betting your farm that there wont be mixups or your samples wont get contaminated leaving the possibility of you being liable for someone elses screw up?
This is just the tip of berg. Wait intil wheat and every other crop varieties have to be reported and charged for selling or you will be liable.

[BreadWinner]

I'm thinking the best way to solve the problem is for all farmers to say their canola is sprayed with clever to avoid any legalities. The companies can't function without buying canola and it will show farmers stand in solidarity against these one sided buying agreements.

[bucket]

Not a bad idea breadwinner.

[hobbyfrmr]

As big lentil describes, i will continue to keep calories off the conventional market and watch the conventional guys do more and more paperwork. As noted above, some conventional farmers will go so far as to encourage other farmers to falsely admit they applied an undesireable herbicide in order to push their production onto a market that doesnt want it, at a discount, in order to make cash flow to pay the retail industry that told them it was safe to apply that herbicide.
And you guys think organic farming is wrong?

[BreadWinner]

Hobby I'm not getting into an organic/conventional war. I'm just saying why should a farmer including an organic one be on the hook if a shipment is rejected. You have no recourse..... You signed off on the liability and risk getting sued. What if a spray plane accidently drifts onto your field and you didn't know about it???? You can't guarantee you crop is fully organic if any chemical drifts onto it??? What if your seed supply is contaminated and you didnt know???? As a farmer we can't 100% garrentee something.

[hobbyfrmr]

Breadwinner, i agree with your points. I also agree that the industry is going to use this against you to lower prices and impose more bullshit regulations. As it is, no person I am aware of to date has bothered to collaborate with APAS or grower groups to establish more balanced purchase contracts. The farmers paid dearly for dodgy seed growers' Triffid fiasco, and somehow I see that farmers are going to be on the wrong end of this clever in incident.
Possibly stand together and insist on an industry standard purchase contract that works in your favour instead of always having to defend yourselves. Show that clout and watch things change for farmers. Proactive vs. reactive .
Craig Zwada has been doing this for a long time. This link looks like he has been collaborrating with industry organizations. So basically the work is 60% complete but , somehow farmers cant seem to make it reality.

http://www.saskmustard.ca/grower/pdfs/contracts-guide01.pdf

[hobbyfrmr]

I switched gears above, but the industry is having their way with farmers more than ever. Its disgusting.