Straightcut without Desication

[farmaholic]

As dumb as this sounds, I don't think this is the place you be disussing the merits of preharvest desiccation. But since we're at it. If we were ever to start straight cutting cereals on our farm, we would have to wait a looooooooong time for the low spots to catch up to the slopes and hill tops. Ok, cut around them and have a jigsaw puzzle when your done with a combine running half empty half the time when you do come back for them. Not the most efficient thing. Or wait til the bitter end and by then the high ground crop is beginning to break over and go down. Or go in and spray and this is the part that irritates me.....timing, supposed to go at 30% (?) moisture....and we're back to the low spot dilemma. So we use iron.

Anyone straight cut in sawfly outbreaks? They done there damage/work and you have a hell of a mess before "its ready"

Spraying can make for cleaner fields though (right hobbit, I just like ribbing you because I know you're one of the biggest spraying advocates out there!!)

We might be wise to follow the rules and like others pointed out with Clever and Manipulator, even when you do follow the rules it might not matter.

[tweety]

Exactly SF3.

Your knowledge vvalk is astounding. 360 gms is registered. AS SF3 said why would anyone use more then that?

7 day PHI, even 3 days with Glyphosate and Heat in canola. You'd have to be a special farmer to harvest before 7 days after spraying glypho

Yields are higher dessicating then swathing regardless of crop staging.

So please stop the theatrics.

[furrowtickler]

We may be forced not to spray round up in the fall in crop to control weeds and even out maturity. Fine but I Know for a fact this practice allows me to use a lot less harmful chemistry at herbicide time. So what is more harmful ?? The consumer/buyer is so outa touch - but its their call sadly.
Spraying after swathing/harvest is basically useless 8 out 10 times here.

[fjlip]

Every time we spray after harvest, we get a great kill on dandelion, thistles and quack plus all winter annuals. Better after a frost. Why does it not work for you furrow?

[farmaholic]

Furrow, for arguments sake, and I have to ask because I don't know, wouldn't in crop herby's be basically metabolized by the time harvest arrives? Can the same be said for glypho?

[Ache4Acres]

Is everyone's experience that straight cutting yields better than swathing cereals?

[furrowtickler]

Fj - maybe I don't use enough ... Lol

[freewheat]

I don't think it yields more, I just hate having crops sprout in the swath. After a rain, standing stuff dries much faster.

[SASKFARMER3]

Guys if you farm in the dry side you have natural dedication. Crop drys down do to fact every thing ran out of water. In the east we need to kill it even. Best way. Also who ever said better kill on thistles after a frost WTF. Their brown and dead like foxtail etc. trees even die if you spray them in fall.

[freewheat]

I don't think it yields more, I just hate having crops sprout in the swath. After a rain, standing stuff dries much faster.

[vvalk]

Tweety. Never seen thistle die from 1 L equivalent. Ask your Monsanto rep what rate they would recommend for fall spraying thistles. Your telling me no farmers you know delicate with a litre of weather as or touchdown or vantage. Give me a break. Love how you argue, throwing shots in every comment you make.

[SASKFARMER3]

My god V what planet are you farming on.
Spray a thistle in mid to late august and it goes down to the roots no thistle next year.
Spray a dried down thistle in Alberta due to no rain in fall at 10 liters and the shit wont die its already dead.
Ask your Monsanto rep that.
FM some don't get it.
Next year will be thirty years of fall preharvest. Thistle and Quack and Willows are not a problem.