Straightcut without Desication

[blackpowder]

It seems in this area that the crop needs killing by something. Frost or steel or chemical. Only two of those tools are controllable. I hate swathing but at times a necessarry risk.

[Klause]

Manipulator and Ethrel really accelerate crops too... Our Pasteur was seeded a week after and is two weeks ahead of the rest in the area....


We're probably about 10 days from taking it off

[tweety]

vvalk, no one but you is dousin crops. You sound like the director of fear mongering for the organic industry.

[mustardman]

After straight cutting cereals for 30 years First time desiccating this year . Due to second growth

[vvalk]

Tweety. Ya I'm a real organic supporter. So your saying all the farmers out there are dedicating with gkysophate at exactly the recommended rate. No one is spraying with an extra 1/2-1L per acre.

[vvalk]

Tweety. I can tell you this, the chemical companies are very concerned about the rate farmers desiccating with. If they are worried so should you. This tool is very much in jeopardy.

[vvalk]

And tweety every farmer checks to see how many days they have between spraying and harvest.

[SASKFARMER3]

Tom sorry germ is only effected on pulse. Cereal no way never have had problems never will. Keep telling people billshit.
Now peas and lentils yes your right.
It's a great way for us eastern guys to even out a crop. We would have green spots till November otherwise.
Cleans up the land and is good.

[SASKFARMER3]

V why would a farmer over spray with glyphos?
One liter or less in fall will kill all your problems. Since 1988 strait cutting and pitting on roundup pre harvest. It helps us eastern sasktel guys be like dry Alberta.
We seed 2.5 to 3 and still it would be green in November if we didn't spray.

[farmaholic]

As dumb as this sounds, I don't think this is the place you be disussing the merits of preharvest desiccation. But since we're at it. If we were ever to start straight cutting cereals on our farm, we would have to wait a looooooooong time for the low spots to catch up to the slopes and hill tops. Ok, cut around them and have a jigsaw puzzle when your done with a combine running half empty half the time when you do come back for them. Not the most efficient thing. Or wait til the bitter end and by then the high ground crop is beginning to break over and go down. Or go in and spray and this is the part that irritates me.....timing, supposed to go at 30% (?) moisture....and we're back to the low spot dilemma. So we use iron.

Anyone straight cut in sawfly outbreaks? They done there damage/work and you have a hell of a mess before "its ready"

Spraying can make for cleaner fields though (right hobbit, I just like ribbing you because I know you're one of the biggest spraying advocates out there!!)

We might be wise to follow the rules and like others pointed out with Clever and Manipulator, even when you do follow the rules it might not matter.

[tweety]

Exactly SF3.

Your knowledge vvalk is astounding. 360 gms is registered. AS SF3 said why would anyone use more then that?

7 day PHI, even 3 days with Glyphosate and Heat in canola. You'd have to be a special farmer to harvest before 7 days after spraying glypho

Yields are higher dessicating then swathing regardless of crop staging.

So please stop the theatrics.

[furrowtickler]

We may be forced not to spray round up in the fall in crop to control weeds and even out maturity. Fine but I Know for a fact this practice allows me to use a lot less harmful chemistry at herbicide time. So what is more harmful ?? The consumer/buyer is so outa touch - but its their call sadly.
Spraying after swathing/harvest is basically useless 8 out 10 times here.

[fjlip]

Every time we spray after harvest, we get a great kill on dandelion, thistles and quack plus all winter annuals. Better after a frost. Why does it not work for you furrow?

[farmaholic]

Furrow, for arguments sake, and I have to ask because I don't know, wouldn't in crop herby's be basically metabolized by the time harvest arrives? Can the same be said for glypho?

[Ache4Acres]

Is everyone's experience that straight cutting yields better than swathing cereals?