Heat gets added to the LIST

[Tandem007]

See tech bulletin from BASF. This is an older bulletin but still applies for 2015.

https://agro.basf.ca/West/Products/Related_Files/Heat_Dessicant_Harv_Aid_Tech_Sheet.pdf

Companies recommending you to use Heat aren't doing your farm any favours....

[sjc]

Klaus
Quit telling people Heat is good for all cereals. It is not. BASF is not supporting it's use on cereals. It has not supported it all year. https://agro.basf.ca/West/KnowledgeCenter/AgSolutionsAdvisor/CurrentIssue/PreHarvest/index.html

[Klause]

The question was what is it labeled for.


Heat is a dessicant in pulses and oilseeds and an additive for weed control in cereals.... I e better control of thistle kochia etc.

That's what's on the LABEL.


The article you refer to simply talks about its dessicant properties.


The whole system is broken.

If certain markets have a problem why the hell was it approved for use.

MRLs should be set before a product is registered.

[riders2010]

Well do we have a department of agriculture or not? For frick sakes this is what happens when you get an industry where companies selling products monitor them selves. Guess who is gonna collect money and who is gonna have a big expense out of all this.

[farmaholic]

There better not have been any "chem shed door recommondations", that are now proving to be troublesome, from the same companies that both supply crop inputs and buy the grain!!

Ultimately whose responsiblilty is it? If its not on the label-thats the first indication. If its on and not accepted by some end users, I guess they have the right to refuse it.

Didn't the Pulse Growers put out a warning a while back indicating potential problems with certain desiccants in certain markets?

[sjc]

Ok fair enough. I agree the Chem company should have there ducks in a row. But cry all u want it says right on the website they are not supporting the use in cereals. Doesn't matter if u want to or not it's not supported. Trust me I have 1000 acres of shit wheat with volunteer rr canola I can't kill. I have to swath the crap when maybe Heat would have taken care of it for me. Could I say screw it and do it anyway. Sure but why the hell would I want to be the one who caused a boatload of wheat to be rejected overseas.
It's registered but there are issues in some markets. Next year it might be cleared up. This year it isn't. Everyone is upfront asking u to not do it. So pout al u want but the fact is this year stick to what is approved and leave it as that.
We are all so dam big we want to do something a certain way and find the magic spray to cure everything. It's Aug 29, I'll swath the crap and combine it in 5 days and everything will be ok.

[Oliver88]

Heat LQ is labelled as a different name in Eastern Canada (Eragon LQ).

[Klause]

Yup... and BASF "supports" it's use on cereals.

https://agro.basf.ca/eragonlq/preharvest.html

LOL.

Btw the EFSA has set MRLs for heat... I did a quick search of their site and came up with a pdf...

I have a feeling this is our grain companies doing and nothing more.

[bucket]

Sjc

Guys that have swathed here only 5 days ago have green growing thru their swaths already.

Just second growth with warm temps and moisture. It won't let the swaths dry.

I think that's why guys are looking at these other options.

But all the options should be well defined ahead of harvest as far as chemicals go.

[furrowtickler]

100% agree Kluase.

[Klause]

Ok... I ran into a viterra grain buyer at timmies this morning. He didn't know anything about Heat?


He's gonna check tomorrow.

[Tandem007]

Of course he's gonna tell you that. Think he wanted to get yelled at during his Sunday Timmies run!

[Klause]

Lol... maybe... he's really good normally and they are open Sundays now.

[furrowtickler]

Open sunday's - lol. The secretary was running the show at one local elevator and only two half wits at the other today - OMG !! - again - WHO WANTS TO WORK IN AG ??? Combines going everywhere here. They should all get fired and apply at the post office - what a joke !!!
Local dealership had 1 frickin guy till noon yesterday - fukin seriously ??? Then they have the balls to say we cant take this or that because is it's been sprayed with a registered chem but maybe not registered chem - *** me. Walmart employies work more than these pricks this time of year and that's simply horrible.
Ya I know my spelling , grammer and swearing are bad - shoot me, deal with it.

[Guest]

I agree furrow , shouldn't have to bin grain that could be hauled on a weekend , what a joke ! there is lots of people looking for work right now .