Reformers need some new advisors

[riders2010]

Would you like a violin tune Hamloc? Maybe a version of he titanic?

If I was a liar I d apply for a job at the Pmo office id be qualified and there are openings weekly. But behind the scenes were all buddies me Nigel and Steve. Steve would pretend to throw me under the bus in a week. I m thinking there must be an off shore oil account for me and Nigel for after the election to accept being thrown under the bus. We pay other peoples bills, 90,000 no problem. Nigel write a cheque.

We bombed and accomplished what?
Hundreds of thousands of refugees are on the move, we have no idea who they really are we have no strategy but it was a real success, yep sure was.

I agree though Mulcair has no idea what to do there either. So we have the right wing nutball and the left wing nutball not knowing what to do. Big surprise. Harper is there for the oil and Mulcair would go to unionize everyone.

[dmlfarmer]

mbratrud:
Do you really think 6 CF18s is all that Canada needed to do and will stop ISIS? All that did was inflame the situation and make Canada a target for terrorism.
You either go in and do the job or stay out!

[bucket]

Sadly canada turns a blind eye to many other regions of the world that have or had the same problems.

For some reason we poke our noses in the middle east where there is no winning. It just harper buying a lottery ticket hoping to cash in on something. Not sure what it is because IF they restore order over there chances are the oil industry in canada is done for a while.

[mbratrud]

No I do not believe 6 planes is enough. It's not just 6 planes, we have boots on the ground scouting targets and training. It's our contribution in a larger coalition. If society always viewed things from the perspective if I cant do it myself I won't do it at all where would the world be? I will be the first to agree the mission is flawed, but they have made a difference, and the alternative was to watch the Orange suits continue cutting off the heads of any westerner they could get their hands on.

Ultimatly there should have been a ground offensive, but politicians know from Afghanistan that western civilization doesn't have the stomach for casualties. So we do the next best thing we inflict pain from a plane. That's not Harpers fault.. that is all of our fault. We don't have near the balls our grand parents had. We haven't yet had to face a real personal threat to our freedom. But it's coming.

So when it comes down to it I would rather see us in the fight with our allies than standing at the back of the crowd watching our friends get their hands dirty.

[mbratrud]

Obama ran on a diplomatic approach, and he's been bombing in a more counties than bush ever did. I think once the get in the "chair" their eyes are opened to a larger threat than we are aware of.

[bucket]

When the American nuked Japan there was innocent collateral damage. But it sent the right message.

If you never want to see the white flag, you are just perpetuating the problem.

[katoe]

One thing i cant figure out is where isis gets there weapons and supplies. surely in this day and age supply lines could be cut off.Other than that all out war is necessary.But then i suppose isis troops would be farmers. Sort of like viet nam. Cant win a war when the enemy is not defined.

[dmlfarmer]

What difference have we made?

I can't believe the attitude that it is okay to go to war but not to suffer casualties. Sure we will contribute but only by bombing from 20,000 feet because they have no weapons that can hit us there. Or we will point out targets to you but we will not shoot. We will train God knows what Rebel group to shoot at the current ISIS rebel forces and then wonder what happens when they shoot at someone else, or us a couple of years later!

The west calls this a WAR on ISIS. What it really is is just target practice for western air forces. Trying to destroy an enemy in a mostly urban environment by bombing alone and without inflecting civilian causalities and is insane. Even more stupid is for world leaders to be shocked by the resultant refugee crisis and unprepared for it.

[mustardman]

Why are we in there?
Saudi Arabia and other Middle East countries who have large armies ARE NOT. Even though they are against Isis

[mustardman]

If this govt can GIVE the Saudis the CWB for nothing. Then maybe Stevie should tell them to fight their own war.
By the way the Saudis have the biggest army in the region