Strahl to Resign?

[Zaphod]

Strahl to Resign?

Wilagro, check the markets this morning(if you know how to find them on your computer) look at what this ruling has done to your pocket book. 9:14 am barley currently locked limit down!!!!!

Just heard Ken Ritter on the news stating that the new PRO's will have suffered from missing sales!!

Not even 24 hrs after the ruling, and the bastards are already making excuses why they won't pay us!!

Boys time to matters into our own hands!! Lets line up the Border with trucks!!!!

[Lifer]

Wilagro, check the markets this morning(if you know how to find them on your computer) look at what this ruling has done to your pocket book. 9:14 am barley currently locked limit down!!!!!

Just heard Ken Ritter on the news stating that the new PRO's will have suffered from missing sales!!

Not even 24 hrs after the ruling, and the bastards are already making excuses why they won't pay us!!

Boys time to matters into our own hands!! Lets line up the Border with trucks!!!!

[BarleyGuy]

Snappy,

No reason for Chairman Ritter to talk of missed sales reducing the value of the pools in a market that has been constantly rising. Canada may have some of the only exportable malting barley in the world this year. Given last year's sad performance, keeping the CWB out of the barley market may have been the best thing that could have happened to the barley pools!

[ProFarmer]

Strahl has been the best ag minister we have seen in years. I getting tired of sucky farmers standing up supporting the CWB. They are the same ones that want to protest that prices are low . When we find out that the CWB has kept the Barley prices artifically low, They stick thier heads in the sand and take it in the ***. Ritter should be the one Fired.

[kamichel]

Barley Guy but they have not been out of selling, because they believed they needed 60 million to make farmers deliver. In other words 60 million below market, or 60 million below feed barley take your pick.
Perhaps what is happening here is that the market is feeling that no one is going to deliver to the board or that much less will be delivered to the board into export markets and that is pushing feed values down.

[kamichel]

For anyone reading this post, I did not post that Chuck Strahl should resign, Bennyhin did, they removed his post, and I was next in line. Furthermore I think Strahl is the best Ag minister we've had yet!!

At least he's trying to make it a fair ballgame, remind me again why Ontario doesn't have to put up with this bullshit!!

[tower]

well one reason would be that farmers in ontario have a lot more market and are content with their existing system. It is and should be federal policy to keep some farmers on the land in western Canada, more than exist today would be better for the future.

With that in mind consider how the markets would dry up (consolidate)north of Calgary if the Board wasn't available to help.

[TOM4CWB]

Tower,

You miss the fact Biofuels change the whole conventional grain system, as does effective value chain production.

The Peace River Region voted in a market choice Director in the last CWB Election, again proves the theory northern grain production is land locked is a myth.

More rain, higher production, and good infrastructure that competes for this grain could make these northern farms some of the most profitable in Canada if these folks are allowed to capitalise on their natural advantages and marketing skills!

[wilagro]

snappy: I wonder why bennyhin's message was pulled? Who complained?

[tower]

Tom4cwb, over the years I've seen a lot of different marketing options come and go, most have been nothing more than really short term economic development. A handful of people close to the project make a bundle during development and then they move on leaving infrastructure to rust and farmers holding the bills. Ethanol might prove to be the real thing pretty quickly but I don't see how that negates the assistance that farmers get from the wheat board. If ADM controls the production facilities in the future, and they already do, this doesn't improve marketing choice.

Would you define value chain for me?

[wilagro]

snappy: After looking back in my browser 'history', I see that a whole bunch of messages were either deleted and/or juxtiposed in this thread. Most likely a problem with database corruption.

Could be wrong...but it wouldn't be the first time...or last.

[TOM4CWB]

Tower,

I define a good value chain, as one that pays a fair farm gate price, under normal conditions returns the cost of production; plus a reasonable return on investment.

We deal in many Canola IP contracts; I see many of the new Malt contracts that paid over $4/bu; feed barley contracts that supposed to pay $3.60/bu or more with delivery off the combine, often these have had TRUE Act of God clauses where production risk is actually shared within the Value Chain.

In our seed production marketing these are targets we aim to fill as well, with marketers taking reasonable margins like 5% on wholesale and 10% on retail sales with full disclosure of the value chain and full pooling of produce within the chain members.

These kind of principals are acheivable with honest entities that have integrety.

Members in "Fair Trade Grain" Value Chains we have done these type of contracts with include but are not limited to:
Alberta Wheat Pool,
Agricore United,
Bunge,
Canadian National Railway,
Cargill,
Galloway Seeds,
Louis Dreyfus,
Prairie Seeds,
Pioneer,
SWP.

I list these in alphabetical order, not in order of who is the best member.

At times the CWB has even participated in our Value Chains, sadly they more often spoil them than help make them work well; because of inflexibility and management lack of understanding and respect for value chain members.

I spend days working with them, and CWB upper middle managers are not team players.

However it is possible to respect and have a viable profitable business in many cases: excluding the CWB wherever possible because they are so unreliable.

IMHO Minister Strahl is simply trying to get the CWB to become responsible members of our grain industry.