Off to a Parlimentary vote----Please respond

[tower]

you think the people in the cwb are dedicated toholding and getting power? lol. compare them to the bozos who run the grain multinationals. The ones that will win if we lose the bard and the option of the board.

[AdamSmith]

tower, there in a nutshell, is why the cwb has to go, they see the buyers and the users of the grain we grow (the multinationals) not to mention our domestic grain companies, as the enemy.

It's like Stronach at Magna, seeing GM,Ford and Chryler as the enemy.

Farmers do not need to be protected from our buyers.

And yes, the cwb is all about domination of an industry, and it's run and managed by people who see everyone as the enemy, farmers who desire to freely sell their own grain are the enemy, buyers who wish to accomodate those farmers are the enemy, buyers who wish to deal directly with farmers are the enemy, railroads who transport the grain from a croplands to ports are the enemy, terminal owners who think they could manage their space better than some ivoryTOWER winnipeg employee are the enemy, anyone who dare hold a different opinion is an enemy and as such deserves to be treated like scum. The deserve to be lied to, treated like children (farmers) intimidated and threatened (grain companies), and most of all impoverished (farmers)

That mindset has nearly destroyed the viability of the grain sector.

[Lifer]

"you think the people in the cwb are dedicated toholding and getting power?"

You don't? that's funny.

[Burbert]

Yeah I bet, the Chucker is in a big hurry to get this on a roll. Apparently he has already written a letter stating his commitment to Canadian farmers. What a bag of wind, his face must be soooooooo reddd right now, what a fiasco. Let Chucker rush into parliament and make this an issue. I hope Mr Meas--- now sues him for wrongful dismissal. Anything Chuck does now, will be an attempt to cover is brightly exposed as=.

[Lifer]

Strahl and Co. may have screwed up around the interpretation of the law.

They have shown a committment to the majority of Canadian Farmers. I find his letter more genuine then Ritter's recent writings.

[silverback]

Do you mean where Ken writes that the cwb is going to become FNA II, FCC Lite, and CWB CO-OP Milling???

[Lifer]

fna II, fcc Lite and pretty much f all. Yup that's about right.

[chaffmeister]

Tower:

Did you know the plebiscite was about CHOICE – not about the CWB as an institution. When you say 86% voted to have the choice of dealing with the board, that’s a misrepresentation based on a misunderstanding. If you want the “choice” of the CWB, you vote for the status quo – the single desk. The ONLY reason to vote otherwise is that you don’t want the SINGLE DESK – you want CHOICE.

You asked <i>What would it take to make the board a viable alternative given the nature of the system?</i>

Not much:
- No pools or flexible pricing in pools (no fixed initial payment, final payment stuff)
- Relationships (the CWB’s got them – they need to exploit them)
- Farmers support (again, the CWB’s got some)
- Negotiating skills (to negotiate with graincos to handle the grain)
- Market sense
- Creativity, dedication and an abundance mentality (not a slice of the pie mentality) – the CWB has no monopoly on this stuff – they may need to hire new people.
- And the CWB culture would need to shed its arrogance


Did you know that the Bloc is against CWB choice because it doesn’t like the Conservatives approach to WTO? Did you know that Dion has stated that when it comes to the CWB issue, the Liberals will do whatever is most expedient for the Liberals? That means pander to Quebec. Don’t think for a minute that anyone’s posture has anything to do with supporting western farmers’ interests – except the Conservatives, both in Ottawa and Edmonton.


You seem to think that we’ve been better off with the CWB than without.

Did you know that REAL DATA shows the CWB SYSTEM COST is dramatically and substantially higher than the non-CWB system?
Did you know that REAL DATA shows that the CWB sales performance in barley over the years has been well below average – WELL BELOW.
Did you know that the CWB’s calculations of its value (presented to the Special Task Force) were WRONG, based on a shockingly poor understanding of how the grain system works?

REAL DATA. REAL COSTS. REAL POOR.

[wilagro]

What is this REAL DATA of which you speak? Where can I get some? Is in on the open market...or is it controlled by a consortium of truth sayers?

[chaffmeister]

CWB System Cost vs non-CWB system:
http://www.quorumcorp.net/Downloads/AnnualReports/AnnualReport200506DataTablesEnglish.pdf
Pages 184-186 (wheat, durum, canola)
- data comes from all the players, including the CWB

CWB Sales Performance:
http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agc6751/$FILE/sparks%20barley%20study%20april%2004.pdf
Section 5.
- main data source was the CWB