Reposting at the top here Melvill's post and my post from " How much select winter wheat do we loose because of contract program"
melvill posted Aug 14, 2007 15:14
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Tom, talked to Rob Graf, winter wheat breeder at Ag. Can. Lethbridge and Gordon Carson, Head, Cereal Technology at CIGI in Winnipeg - both by e-mail - about the real or perceived differences between quality of Select and Generic CWRW wheats.
Dr. Graf said, "The non-select varieties have various flaws that keep them out of the CWRW Select class. Thank you for asking the question, because it is not just all about protein content, as some would like farmers to believe.
In general, the non-Select varieties have combinations of weaker gluten properties, poorer flour colour, and/or poor flour yield."
Mr. Carson said, ". . . there is enough documented work to show that the quality of gluten forming proteins in the Generic CWRW is still considerably inferior to Select varieties even at the same protein levels. Select varieties have a higher milling yield, lower flour ash, better flour color, higher water absorption, higher gluten strength, and higher loaf volume than Generic varieties."
Mr. Carson sent me some results of Select/Generic comparison testing done at the CIGI Lab. They tested a mix of 40/30/30 Osprey/Bellatrix/Readymade against 100% CDC Falcon. It's a large file but I'll e-mail it to anyone wanting it.
AdamSmith posted Aug 15, 2007 11:56
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http://www.ndwheat.com/growers/details.asp?nID=2340
Winter Wheat
Winter wheat acres surged up 85 percent over last year to 370,000 acres statewide. Jerry continued to be the most popular variety, holding 44 percent of the acreage. Jerry has led acres for the past three years mainly because of its good winter hardiness and resistance to leaf and stem rust. CDC Falcon came in second with 15 percent of acres, followed by Jagalene in third with 12 percent. If moisture and weather conditions in fall continue to be ideal for winter wheat planting, greater interest in variety trends will likely be noted by producers and customers.
...CDC Falcon came in second with 15 percent of acres,....
Bottineau Bids Basis Cash
Milling Spring Wheat Aug 31, 07 -0.88 5.83
HRW Wheat Aug 31, 07 -1.21 5.48
$5.48 US equals $5.92 Canadian
Quality means SQUAT, if you don't get paid for it.
The Real world will buy CDC Falcon and pay value, the Clown Wheat Board and their wheat breeding cronnies love to talk and talk about inferior quality, but at the end of the day, it means SQUAT. Because unless your select winter wheat will fetch you well over $6, (it's a premium product ya know)from the beloved board. All the words in world just mean SQUAT.
melvill posted Aug 14, 2007 15:14
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Tom, talked to Rob Graf, winter wheat breeder at Ag. Can. Lethbridge and Gordon Carson, Head, Cereal Technology at CIGI in Winnipeg - both by e-mail - about the real or perceived differences between quality of Select and Generic CWRW wheats.
Dr. Graf said, "The non-select varieties have various flaws that keep them out of the CWRW Select class. Thank you for asking the question, because it is not just all about protein content, as some would like farmers to believe.
In general, the non-Select varieties have combinations of weaker gluten properties, poorer flour colour, and/or poor flour yield."
Mr. Carson said, ". . . there is enough documented work to show that the quality of gluten forming proteins in the Generic CWRW is still considerably inferior to Select varieties even at the same protein levels. Select varieties have a higher milling yield, lower flour ash, better flour color, higher water absorption, higher gluten strength, and higher loaf volume than Generic varieties."
Mr. Carson sent me some results of Select/Generic comparison testing done at the CIGI Lab. They tested a mix of 40/30/30 Osprey/Bellatrix/Readymade against 100% CDC Falcon. It's a large file but I'll e-mail it to anyone wanting it.
AdamSmith posted Aug 15, 2007 11:56
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http://www.ndwheat.com/growers/details.asp?nID=2340
Winter Wheat
Winter wheat acres surged up 85 percent over last year to 370,000 acres statewide. Jerry continued to be the most popular variety, holding 44 percent of the acreage. Jerry has led acres for the past three years mainly because of its good winter hardiness and resistance to leaf and stem rust. CDC Falcon came in second with 15 percent of acres, followed by Jagalene in third with 12 percent. If moisture and weather conditions in fall continue to be ideal for winter wheat planting, greater interest in variety trends will likely be noted by producers and customers.
...CDC Falcon came in second with 15 percent of acres,....
Bottineau Bids Basis Cash
Milling Spring Wheat Aug 31, 07 -0.88 5.83
HRW Wheat Aug 31, 07 -1.21 5.48
$5.48 US equals $5.92 Canadian
Quality means SQUAT, if you don't get paid for it.
The Real world will buy CDC Falcon and pay value, the Clown Wheat Board and their wheat breeding cronnies love to talk and talk about inferior quality, but at the end of the day, it means SQUAT. Because unless your select winter wheat will fetch you well over $6, (it's a premium product ya know)from the beloved board. All the words in world just mean SQUAT.
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