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    #11
    According to Chinese statistics, the population in abject poverty was reduced from 250 million to 26 million during 1978 and 2004. The ratio of the very poor to the total rural population has been reduced from 30.7 percent to 3.1 percent.

    source:
    http://english.people.com.cn/200505/28/eng20050528_187219.html

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      #12
      Homer Simpson: "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true."

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        #13
        No need to apologize tower.

        We all understand that having a -liberal- attitude means never having to admit that your wrong, just that there are various degrees of being right.

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          #14
          I don't enjoy engaging with the ridiculous, but sometimes one has to deal with headlice dead on.

          1. Over 40 of the state-farm managers were on our farm, tower, so perhaps I do have a little insight, that of course dims in your self-appointed brilliance, but nonetheless represents aggregate, first-hand data.

          2. We have farmed for only 39 years, tower, so perhaps you consider that fledgling experience.

          3. Suppliers? Could you tell me to whom you refer? Not chemical or ferilizer companies! Perhaps our bagging equipment suppliers! Your reasoning lacks measure, tower. Ah, you do SO remind me of Vader.

          Apologize, for what, grasshopper? You have much to learn about your peers. And about what your writing reveals.

          Parsley

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            #15
            highwayman, are you insinuating that I'm insinuating?

            Unfortunately marketing intelligence isn't the only thing needed for success. You need market presence as well, and again occasional individuals have that niche product or market to be successful, but individual grain producers taking on con agra, adm, tyson, etc. won't even be noticed as the big wheels keep on turning.

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              #16
              Thanks Fransisco, not just for all those meaningless facts, big grin, but also for absolving me of the need to apologize.

              I suppose one persons liberal is another persons fascist, I don't think that namecalling adds that much to a debate. And I don't think that many people fit all aspects of their lives within labels.

              How about thse stats though eh? old Homer knows whereof he speaks.

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                #17
                parsley., well how about apologizing for lowering the level of debate? What do you think charliep

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                  #18
                  tiresome tower,

                  Why do you suppose the multis hire public relations firms to put out fires started by mere individuals?

                  towerless, it is simply to squell the individual voice.

                  And if you don't believe me, ask Rogers cable what happened to them a few years ago when an irate subscriber bulldozed Rogers' "attitude" into submission!!

                  Why do you suppose the un-Canadian Wheat Board expends more energy/time on PR than on marketing?

                  towerless, it is because they are scared of the individual stirring up a furor.

                  Tut, tut, tut, grasshopper, your arguments are dandelion fluff.

                  Just in case you doubt the influence of a few mere individuals, track the success that has blossomed from a few producers promoting individual marketing, plus growing what the consumer actually wanted.

                  It's called organics, towerless. And it has grown, just a tad, mind you, but it has grown. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if you haven't joined!

                  Keep in touch. You are amply fine amusement writing under your new handle.

                  Parsley

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                    #19
                    Parsley, I've been a member here for longer than you think. And this is the only name I've used. You seem to be fixated on this Vader to the exclusion of debate.

                    I have an idea of the power and determination of the multis as you so quaintly call them. You should consider that in all your business decisions.

                    what do you think charliep?

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                      #20
                      You tell Agri-villers that"
                      1. being able to export what we grow isn't useful

                      and

                      2. you also tell Agri-villers that corporations are big bad bastards

                      and then, (and this IS amsusing)

                      you say I'm lowering the level of debate.

                      I have never met a mental eunoch before. Hello.

                      Parsley

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