Forage Seed Market Freedom

[sumdumguy]

Tower, I don't think that even one farmer would disagree with you if the CWB was actually a monopoly. It is a single buyer, a monopsony, not a single seller. Soyour monopoly /power argument is fatally flawed. I suppose the CWB can "market" if it can confiscate grain and sell at the losest price. Also, if the CWB was actually doing a good job at marketing, farmers might half-believe you, but some of us feel that they have failed generations of western farmers miserably. If you disagree, you should have enough faith that your powerful prince could survive in a free market system. What's the problem?

As for forward sellers, I have marketed internationally for more than 30 years and I have seen what happens to the companies who forward sell. Dangerous business selling something you do not own. I watched as the guys who got caught up in that game dropped off like flies in the special crop market, the rest survived. I might add they were the "powerful" players.

[Fransisco]

What are the 'unnecessary' compromises of which you speak? As far as I can tell we are no freer now than we were 5 years ago.

[Fransisco]

tower said "If the Moderators are content that you have used the best judgement available to you to ensure a healthy atmosphere for debate on these forums who am I to argue with them."

A better question would be who are you to say that you know better than your neighbor how he should market his wheat and barley and to whom.

Why don't you do with your crop what you want and let your neighbor do the same with his?

Now that would be civilized!

[parsley]

Oh yes we are Fransisco.

Is it not true that farmer-directors of the CWB can prepare/run for political office, irregardless of a PERCIEVED conflict of interest?

Parsley

[Fransisco]

Hmm, I must have missed that one. What a groundbreaking and revolutionary comprimise.

Which director are we talking about here?

[Fransisco]

I mean compromise not comprimise.

[parsley]

It's tower's compromise to tell. Anyone that aware/in the loop about Wheat Board compromises should herald that compromise triumphantly.

Parsley

[Burbert]

tower, These duds, here on Angriville, shout, namecall, and belittle anyone, who disagrees with them. They spew their venom, meanmouth and generally blitz anyone, who disagrees with their perv point of view. It is Pc ideology, scrip and save, bash and namecall, if all else fails, attack Ottawa or its establishments, cause they are trying to buffalo AB. AB, is full of it. This site is a bit suspect, cause it seems to march to the tune of the Ab Grain Concession and Ab cabinet. Oh well, it is another kilometer on the missinformation hwy. Oil, smoile, gag is where its at, lets all git rich following the open market agenda. Hey check the new electric prices, lovely, just lovely @##@##@@###

[Fransisco]

Hey Burbert, maybe it would help if you tried breathing into a paper bag.

[tower]

They do do these services for those farmers who are willing to pay for those services, I don't think it's a free lunch. There may not be any cash change hand but the farmer is paying to have land close to delivery points, is large enough that the company can make more profit from doing on deal instead of another, or perhaps the farmer is willing to let his grain go for a slightly lower grain than it really is, because he needs the cash.

I don't understand your concern with forward pricing as it seems to me that the arguments are applicable to both systems of doing the samy kinds of transactions.

Any business on the scale of board or major seed marketer of any sort is going to have to manage supply and demand, so I don't have to take a position on the bureaucrat/farmer division of labour but rather on the public bureaucrat vs the private working for the other marketer.

In the case of maximizing revenue it strikes me that legume seed pricing has a significant range from farm gate to consumer. I am no different in wanting to see more of that come to the farmer.

I see number 2 as the same as 3. If any organization can get me more money for my product I'd be happier. I believe that having a distinctly different and farmer elected board in between me and the purchaser, processer, transporter, wholesaler and retailer, who is busily transferring money from one pocket to the other, with each shift making more money that I make from going to the joy and trouble of raising the stuff. Perhaps we should instead empower the board to do a little more of that kind of thing.

And I'm afraid I don't understand 4.