Harvest

[TOM4CWB]

Agstar77,

You had a great deal to the negative reaction... your initial post about the "Rumored" $10 Canola @ 32bu/ac... left out the CWB PRO or price expectations for the CWRS wheat @ 40bu/ac. At 1t/ac, the CWB PRO @ 240/ac at port position is nothing less than a bone shattering comentary on the $50/ac deficit caused by a marketer that refuses to extract the true costs of growing CWRS wheat fro the world market place.

Anyone not recoginsing the $190/ac return... while you expect almost double from your nonboard crop... would have truly missed the cleaverness of your post.

CP... you do yourself a BIG disfavour in posting profanity... Even though you and Agstar77 think it is "CUTE" use this kind of language to brow beat your opposition into submission... it is typical of people who have a weak point to make in the first instance.

The reaction was really quite predictable & logical... you expect Canola to pay the bills on your farm, yet the wheat you yourself market at through the CWB won't come close to breaking even at your farm gate according to your own admissions.

The CWB even removed the AB/SK/MB CWB system costs to get our "Designated area" wheat and barley to port position because this information is now offensive and again points to another failure of the "Single Desk" to extract value for its real client.

I am afraid your complaints are shallow, you will reap what you sow... and Agstar77 sowed plenty of offence... he is simply recieving back a small portion of the harvest he should be expecting in return!!!

[agstar77]

Padron ,you are right we need a vision for agriculture. But as long as we keep sniping at one another nothing will happen. The 10 $ reference was only meant to be an expression of frustration at the level of all ag prices and the general lack of concern by this government and previous ones.

[cottonpicken]

Great pars care to tell us who these silent but present dudes are.

Maybe a contest?

What will be the top performing investment vehicles for the next year?Or what ever peramators you want.

Or are you just making stuff up as you go again.

I was wondering when you would show up tom.Four horsmen work better than three when distorting reality.

[Fransisco]

And there we have agstar's vision in a nutshell. Government, government, government. Central planning, command and control, coercion.

Thank's, but no thanks we've got too much of that already.

[Fransisco]

Anyone can lock in $9.00 plus for canola, a record high price, but for agstar the market is not offering him enough, he needs a handout.

With board grains its seemingly the opposite, we're a buck a bushel behind the rest of the world, it's there for the taking, but no, the wheat board government control vision is more important than farmer returns or self sufficiency. And we keep getting fed the same line of BS about what a wonderful job they are doing getting us 'premiums'.

Agstar is one of the guys responsible for this 'vision-situation' but according to his handmaiden's, like foul-mouthed cotton, we are supposed to simply ignore that little fact of reality.

Well that's obviously not happening now is it? Why? Because agstar the farmer is also agstar the CWB director they are not two separate people they are one and the same.

[northfarmer]

on and off showers and at times heavy rain up in the peace.....some canola swathed and some cereAls pre harvested.....but otherwise the cool wet weatehr is delaying maturity and the conclusion of the forage grass harvesting which is not yet done....very little winter wheat off, though very small acres in our part of the world

on the topic of marketing, the concern in this area is not the break even price of canola, we make money at $9.00 and even with high costs of production these price levels are a good place to start markeing with an average crop ahead of us to harvest, weather willing.......same with oats and peas.....

what is suprising is talking to the more recent and long term cwb supporters who now say to hell with them...they are awfull choked about the void contracts for $3.70 feed barley....they were all over us to buy it, we signed it, and some liberal appointed judge and are so called freinds helped kill it...i suspect the trade will still fill the contracts with the end users, with the support of the board with whatever fees are attached to get it the hell out of the country, AND THE FARMER WILL TAKE 50 TO 75 CENTS LESS AT THE PIT FOR IT.....GO AHEAD AND HAVE A PLEBICITE NOW.......THE SINLGE DESKS WILL BE DEAD SOON....AND CP WHAT ARE YOU THINKING WITH THE EXPLETIVES AND THEN IN TURN BOASTS, ....YOU INSECURITY SPEAKS VOLUME ABOUT YOUR MATURITY...

have a good day all and good luck with harvest

[Zaphod]

CP, with your brilliance in the market, I'm wondering if you can tell me when the markets will tip over again. Markets always cycle, and I'm hoping you can tell me when pricing should be finished. It's one thing to call markets higher for years and take credit when the global crop fails and the upward cycle starts, but I really need to know when the good times will be over.

[cottonpicken]

North,scroll up and read the posts besides mine.I have no right to defend myself?

Insecurity?

Do Insecure people stand up to the rabid pack of muts that turn any and all conversations back to the cwb dead horse?

Do Insecure people throw out marketing challenges?

[Zaphod]

Great political response. Avoid the question by redirecting.

I was hoping for more confidence with your market forecast.

[northfarmer]

blah blah blah...speaking of rabid packs, sounds like you belong in one.....

harvest is about taking the crop off and selling it.....any discussion about selling it and making money inevitably revolves around our freedom to market and in turn takes us right back to the CWB debate.....the barley decision being the most recent and relevant.....

the guy who started this thread comingled actual harvest results with marketing and pricing information including fert costs which when he confirms his pricing he will the the price of N is up way up form the pre buy last fall....


i am not saying you cannot defend yourself, knock yourself out, but calling three posters F*&^%$% losers, that is truly an intelligent offering and opens it up for enlightened discussion....

have a good day!