Scottish Malt prices go over 8.00

[Incognito]

"But of course you understand that with there (sic) computers and the internet access to prices and buyers all over the world the real farmers on this site don't need help."

It is not about help.

To borrow the immortal phrase:

"Its about the economy, stupid!"

Why is it the left whacks can't get this simple point?

[silverback]

...but of course you understand that with their unwavering faith in their socialist friends at the cwb, the lemmings who choose to let someone else do their thinking for them don't need help.

[Fransisco]

Out of interest sake, I talked to someone who was looking at shipping grain to Europe recently. And he figured the cost to get it there was about $2.20 per bushel from thunder bay.

Lets say he was conservative maybe it's more like $2.50. That leaves $5.50 on the table for you to get it to thunder bay, cover your costs and what at the end of the day looks like a much, much better margin than the board guru's leave in your pocket.

[Fransisco]

Oops, the starting price was $8.36 not $8.00.

So take another 36 cents on.

[grassfarmer]

Fransisco, Looking at feed barley in the UK at the moment - it's worth around $6.93bu on farm, last year it was only worth $3.37bu. So if it costs you $2.20 bu to ship, any price achieved in western Canada over $1.17 delivered to Thunder Bay last year must have been a great trade. Cherry picking high prices from around the world to justify bashing the CWB is nonsense.

[parsley]

grassfarmer,


If you have ever gone to a registered breeder's bullsale,you will know that the bulls are sold at a wide range of prices.

Those prices are published, advertised
all over the world, and the highest prices are lusted for by every cowman. As incognito says, it's all about the economy.

Do you advocate averaging, and pooling all bullsale sales?

Parsley

[grassfarmer]

Do you advocate bashing the auctioneer at a bull sale in Calgary because the bulls made less money than the ones at a sale in Scotland did?

[parsley]

If the auctioneer:

1. was the only one who could obtain the license to sell the bulls in Calgary,

2. and NO ONE else was allowed to sell the bulls,

3. and if the price the auctioneer got was pissy,

4. and if the clerk who wrote down the prices obtained more money than the breeder,

... you bloody right I would blame the auctioneer.

Any sane cowboy would lynch him.

Parsley

PS
incognito, isn't that the economics you were talking about in your hm above?

[Fransisco]

To summarize, the CWB is not an auctioneer.

And what is nonsense is ignoring the fact that everyone else is getting higher prices than farmers trapped behind the iron curtain of the designated area.

[TOM4CWB]

Grassfarmer,

I should be able to get CHEAP prime rib. You should sell it to me at the average price you get rail grade for your next steers... I DESERVE the best at an average cheap price.

Lets have the CCB. Cheap beef for all. Especially for you Grassfarmer.

John Prentice of the CCA said it well on your behalf to the Canadian Senate in Edmonton:

“The present Canadian Wheat Board directors are appointed by the government to act pro bono in the public good. In effect, this includes running a national feed grain policy through the maintenance of a minimum carry out of barley at the end of each crop year, and the figure is used of around 2 million tonnes. That is good in terms of looking after the domestic industry, the domestic users.”
“If you take November 15th, 1995, remember the United States had a very serious crop failure…, and they came up drastically short …
Now, on November 15th, 1995, the Canadian Wheat Board was pleading with farmers. They had the opportunity to sell to Japan and net back $4.43 a bushel. At that time the local market, and they used Lacombe Alberta, was 3.35, so could have generated $1.08 more… Now, if you take this crop year to the end, what happened in the United States, they basically ran out of corn. They were bringing corn back up the Mississippi. They were feeding wheat, and they darn near ran out.
We had a carryover, if you look here, of 1.8 million tonnes. That is three days of supply in the United States, and if they could have shipped to Japan, they could not have taken advantage of that. They could not anyway, because of the de facto feed grain policy of a 2 million tonne carryout. That is a situation, if I was a grain farmer, I would have been really mad about it, because they could not take advantage of it.”


How long must we pay, and pay, and pay, and pay... grassfarmer?

What gives you the moral authority to confiscate my barley/wheat and force me to sell it for less than FAIR MARKET VALUE?

[TOM4CWB]

Franny,

Next CWB Election:

All Livestock producers: cattle, hog, chicken, turkey,

NO VOTE ON CWB DIRECTORS ELECTIONS.

We cannot get a fair price for our grain from a group of people who have a conflict of interest or who believe the world owes them everything on a gold platter (Leftwing Cowards!)

[grassfarmer]

That's a post from the far side TOM,
I don't know how many cattle, hog, chicken or turkey producers vote in CWB elections but i'm assuming if they do it is because they are also grain producers hence would have an interest in higher not lower grain prices.
The "Leftwing Cowards!" comment sums up the paranoia of you cwb bashers pretty well.

[parsley]

Cattlemen want cheap grain.

Cattlemen can access grain in Canada that is captive in Canada.

Nobody else can access that grain at cheap prices.


Do you suppose grain farmers like that?

Parsley

[chaffmeister]

Grassfarmer said:
"Cherry picking high prices from around the world to justify bashing the CWB is nonsense."

So how then, do you justify the CWB?

[kamichel]

Benny grunt moan hmmm, buy farmland in Sask??? Even with the run up in grain prices the Alberta buyers that want to rent land cannot get it rented. So much for their investment when their losing 6 percent per year. Guess they will have to work for it.