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    The politics of it all

    Intersting article here I will note the following paragraph,

    ...For example, some think the Prime Minister might want to reiterate his promise to get rid of the Canadian Wheat Board,...

    Given that the Liberals are in such difficulty, they're not likely to vote against the Throne Speech, and the previously mentioned policies could get through.

    As someone said here recently,

    Nows the the time to lobby the feds like the farm depends on it.


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    Harper unlikely to take hard-right turn

    Opportunity is there, but taking it would risk the support he has just won in Quebec
    BRIAN LAGHI

    From Wednesday's Globe and Mail

    September 19, 2007 at 4:58 AM EDT

    The conservative core that underpins Stephen Harper's minority government will no doubt see an opportunity in Monday's Quebec by-election results to take a hard-right turn. But it's an opening that the Prime Minister appears ready to resist.

    With a Speech from the Throne coming next month, the thinking goes that the battered Liberals and Bloc Québécois won't dare bring down the Tories after getting badly beaten in two of their heartland ridings, so there's an opportunity for the Prime Minister to shove a little conservative dogma down the opposition's throat.

    The problem with that notion is that the Tories won the riding of Roberval-Lac-Saint-Jean and came a solid second in Saint-Hyacinthe-Bagot by doing exactly the opposite. To tack back now would only risk unravelling much of the work Mr. Harper has done in moderating policies on Afghanistan, the environment and others that Quebeckers have demanded be tempered.

    "When Mr. Harper went into Quebec in his by-election sorties, he didn't mention Afghanistan, he didn't mention Kyoto," said Peter Donolo of the Strategic Counsel. "Instead he focused on the openness to Quebec and the fiscal imbalance that brought him dividends."


    Calls for Liberal shakeup dog Dion
    Since the by-elections were called, the Prime Minister and members of his government have dropped several hints that the Canadian combat presence in Kandahar will likely come to an end by 2009. He also used the recent APEC summit in Australia to style himself a protector of the environment.

    A good example of the difficulties of Mr. Harper's previous approach can be found in the loss of another by-election one year ago. In London North Centre, the party handpicked a strong right-wing candidate in an effort to energize its core, thinking that a high turnout of its foundation voters would win the seat. The move backfired, as candidate Diane Haskett ended up polarizing an electorate that had already been asking questions about Mr. Harper's environmental policies.

    The approach to the Quebec by-elections suggests Mr. Harper has learned his lesson.

    Moreover, sources close to the Prime Minister say the Throne Speech is very close to being written and they don't expect Mr. Harper will make an effort to include anything that would bring about his government's defeat.

    But given that the Tories have now won a key Quebec by-election and done well in another, there are those who will be tempted to develop a speech that gets back to basics. For example, some think the Prime Minister might want to reiterate his promise to get rid of the Canadian Wheat Board, or cement the plan to ditch the long-gun registry.

    Given that the Liberals are in such difficulty, they're not likely to vote against the Throne Speech, and the previously mentioned policies could get through.

    The problem, of course, is if something like opposing greater gun control was unpopular before, it's likely to continue to be unpopular. Pushing such a policy through Parliament may only be a win for the hard right and might offend those Canadians in the centre of the political spectrum, some of whom made up the voting group that won Roberval for the party.

    "I don't think it's smart politics in Quebec," Mr. Donolo said.

    This is not to say that all small-c conservative policies are political losers. Indeed, toughening up the justice system and cutting taxes are both ideas that would probably find favour with voters, Mr. Donolo says. These notions could find their way into the speech and, as far as the Conservative Party popularity goes, they probably should.

    But, beyond those areas of strong resonance, Mr. Harper probably wants to continue the slow-and-steady building program that has, bit by bit, made Canadian voters more comfortable with him, rather than resurrect their suspicions by moving back to the right.

    #2
    "get rid of the Wheat Board"

    hmmmmmm.

    The message we need to get to Eastern Canada is that those "few of us" that are demanding them, want licenses the same as Quebec and Ontario NOW ENJOY.

    Nothing more. Nothing less.

    Parsley

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      #3
      Yes , politics , ugly is Harper et al. not increasing initial prices when they were asked Aug. 2. Just doing it to make CWB look bad.

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        #4
        Tsk, tsk agstar the wheat board is perfectly capable of making itself look bad as any and all price comparisons show time and again.

        Charlie had posted these a few threads back.

        <blockquote>Here is 11 years of first adjustment payment dates.

        2006/07 Nov. 14
        2005/06 Nov. 28
        2004/05 Feb. 1
        2003/04 Nov. 12 (CWRW) Dec. 16 remainder
        2002/03 Sept. 17 (year of drought, CWB election and deficit).
        2001/02 Sept. 2 (malt barley) Jan. 4 remainder.
        2000/01 Dec. 22
        1999/00 Nov. 12
        1998/99 Dec. 22
        1997/98 Sept. 23
        1996/97 Feb. 10

        Source - CWB website.</blockquote>

        Why the different standard for the Harper government?

        And if you are so eager to get paid why are you bothering to stay in the pool at all?

        Conversely, if you are such a big fan of the CWB,pooling system then why all the moaning? Lousy initials, slow payment, and below average prices are all par for the course.

        It's your system brother, you keep asking for it. You shouldn't complain when you keep getting what you ask for.

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          #5
          agstar

          Posted this before. If I was government, I would stay with the normal process - initial payments have only been increased in September in 2 of the past 11 years. I also note how critical it is to get the spreads right on initial payments since they will be used in all the fixed price contracts for a significant period of time. I would make sure most if not all wheat is in the bin and grade/protein percentages are known. The 80 % EPO is a relatively alternative and that put the responsibility on the CWB to manage their/your risk.

          Here is 11 years of first adjustment payment dates.

          2006/07 Nov. 2
          2005/06 Nov. 28
          2004/05 Feb. 1
          2003/04 Nov. 12 (CWRW) Dec. 16 remainder
          2002/03 Sept. 17 (year of drought, CWB election and deficit).
          2001/02 Sept. 2 (malt barley) Jan. 4 remainder.
          2000/01 Dec. 22
          1999/00 Nov. 12
          1998/99 Dec. 22
          1997/98 Sept. 23
          1996/97 Feb. 10

          Source - CWB website.

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            #6
            Just had a review of the fixed price contracts. Even with the ugly basis, current fixed price contracts are $20 to $30/tonne over the PRO. I would cash price all CWB deliveries in the fall to generate cash flow/lock in what should be a profitable price.

            http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/farmers/producer/historical/pdf/2007-08/0708dpccharts.pdf

            The PRO is likely to be increased again September so the more the longer it takes to make the adjustment payment, the bigger it is likely to be.

            When you look at early payment option premiums relative to the current market, they seem expensive to me. If the CWB sees fit to charge the farmer anywhere from $3 to $4.75/tonne for 80 % EPO of what is likely a very conservative PRO, why should the taxpayer take on this risk?

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              #7
              Looks like 423 mainstreet is where the foot dragging and politics on raising intials starts and ends. Typical.
              <blockquote>
              Release - Gerry Ritz, Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food and Minister for the Canadian Wheat Board, today issued the following statement regarding the Canadian Wheat Board’s (CWB) request to increase initial payments for wheat and barley. “Farmers are benefiting from the highest commodity prices in years. Canada’s New Government is committed to getting as much of that money into the pockets of hard working farmers as quickly as possible.

              “By the time the Canadian Wheat Board released its initial prices on August 2, it was already clear that commodity prices were rising and the CWB acknowledged the need to raise the initial prices. On August 15, the Canadian Wheat Board officially asked the government for the initial price increases. It’s unfortunate that it took the CWB nearly two weeks to make the request to begin the process to adjust the initial price.

              “Canada’s New Government is committed to accountability and that means taking the time to do the job right. My departmental officials and I are working hard to do the due diligence to review the request and deliver the best possible decision as quickly as possible.” </blockquote>

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