COWS

[parsley]

So, I take it then, that your solution is to solidly head for #4?

[parsley]

You have apparently abandoned #1.

#2 or #3 can only be sustained if one group is appreciably stupider than the other.

So that leaves #4.


Now ask yourself, Is that what I really want?

Parsley

[jensend]

didn't say that at all. you were right before when you said you didn't understand me. there are buyers and sellers. i just said there isn't the efficiency in the market that you want to assume. have a nice evening.

[parsley]

And I agree with you that "there isn't the efficiency in the market",at least there isn't for me, hence asking which way do we head!

How do we get market efficiency? I am definitely an unwilling seller to the CWB. And definitely against forced selling, by threat of jail, to the CWB

Pick 1,2,3 or 4.

But of course, the age old option, when discussion gets a little uncomfortable, is to run for the apron strings.

Parsley

[Fransisco]

And while you are at it explain these.

How is it exactly that a 299% tariff on butter makes Canada a safer place?

How is it exactly that allowing someone like Chris Birch to sell milk without quota will lead to a free-for- all in cocaine and heroin?

[Fransisco]

And I vote for option 1 on parsley's list. It is the only win-win scenario.

[jensend]

i don't see an option that has existed in fertilizer lately: a seller with captive buyers or in grains the last few years: a desperate seller to a small number of buyers. of course the second scenario also exists in the extreme in cattle. your econ 100 conditions for a free and open market rarely exist anymore. dwayne andreas (adm) said he absolutely didn't want free and open grain markets and his board of directors would fire him if he ever did work for free markets.

[Fransisco]

Well there is a good argument from the left. We shouldn't have free trade because the big bad multi-nationals don't want it.

[jensend]

sorry fran. you don't get it. i'm not against free and open trade and markets; i'm just saying if you think that's the environment you're operating in you're fooling yourself. willing buyers and willing sellers indicates a balance between the two sides which we don't have and for the last couple of days i've just been saying that's a bigger problem than the cwb (which, if you missed it, i have been saying should be dismantled). did you see the reference to the economist article this morning in good morning prairies report saying ethanol is a phony?

[TOM4CWB]

jensend,

Good points!

Reality is "global warming" is in the same realm (as bio-fuels)... but has changed the economic reality for so many... as has the threats 9-11 created.

Fact is we will need to convert to a non-oil based economy at some point... I believe sooner is BETTER than...`later`... when we will be pushed into a tighter box with fewer alternatives!

[Fransisco]

Okay on that I can agree, we are not always operating in a free trade environment. Which is my 'beef'(pun intended) here. Freer trade in all areas is the goal we should be striving for.

By the way, have you got some kind of a problem with the shift key on your keyboard or have you just got something against capital letters?

[Fransisco]

Okay Tom lets try it again. How is milk different than wheat and barley. And how is it that you are so different from Chris Birch?