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    #11
    Let me re-phrase that... can you call it lying when THEY don't know what THEY'RE talking about?

    (I'm talkin' bout Ritter.)

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      #12
      I was wondering when somebody would finally notice. Finger slipped when I originally signed up and as far as I can tell there is no way to correct it.

      And sorry I don't buy the everybody is right and everybody is wrong all at the same time theory.

      Check the chart again, Harper is right, Ritter is wrong.

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        #13
        The CWB is very good at selectively picking the numbers to back their case. Right now they will push the returns they are getting for durum because for one of the few times in history they are the only game in town. While they quote their expected returns for malt they neglect to quote or compare to current U.S. prices or where we would be in an open market. The reality is that while they have been able to get away with this in the past, producers are becoming better informed and access to U.S. and world prices are available everyday. Maybe we need a poll of producers as to wether they think they would rather have U.S. prices or our prices( whose better off). What is implied by the CWB is that they are better marketers of our grain than we are. Recent sales programs by the board would indicate that their record is in fact not likely any better than our own.

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          #14
          1) crop rotation
          2) balancing acres
          3) flex within crop types ( cereals, Broadleaf)
          4) land ready for winter wheat
          5) Proper long range planning

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            #15
            It doesn't look like they're doing that great a job on Durum right now either. The prices in the States are almost double what the pro is.

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              #16
              The fundamental issue around CWB public comments is "preservation of the CWB". Whenever you read ANYTHING presented by the CWB, keep this in mind and all will make sense.

              It doesn't matter that Harper is factually correct - what matters is that his comments made the CWB look bad. The CWB's interest is in spinning it around so that they can draw positive light on themselves. First they say Harper was wrong but as evidence they talk about what the trade was paying for malt barley and then what the PRO is now for malt barley. They don't talk about why the barley market dropped like a dead cat following the judge's ruling.

              They talk about the market as if its some disembodied entity that the trade simply follows - prices simply emerge out of --- whatever. They totally miss the point that the market price is a function of many people making independent decisions, based on what is going on around them. There's a very good reason why the barley market in Western Canada dropped - because barley buyers dropped their prices. In writing up their release, did the CWB interview any barley traders asking why they dropped their prices? If they didn't, shame on them. If they did and didn't reflect their opinions in their release, shame on them.

              Also remember - the CWB was arguing against what they saw as Harper suggesting the ONLY reason the barley market went down was the return of the single desk. (Only a myopic idiot would believe that that was what Harper was trying to say - but I digress.) As evidence to back up their argument they talk about how the CWB price is higher now than earlier when the grain companies were setting prices. Are they suggesting this is because of the CWB? And maybe, if you're gullible, that its ONLY because of the CWB?

              As far as the CWB PR department is concerned, their job is done if you are left with the impression that if the price is going down, its not their fault, and if the price is going up, it is their fault.


              As a childhood hero of mine used to say "Good Grief!"

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                #17
                Chaffmeister,

                Well put... the further the CWB pushes their "Facts" the deeper the hole gets they are digging! When the reason for existence is the "Single Desk" instead of maximising grain grower returns... this result should not be unexpected!

                Interesting that Rod Flaman would pick the Liberal good ship Titanic... over the CWB's sinking Jolly Rodger! Seems like they both have the same Captain!

                Goodales Revenge isn't done yet... this is politics at its _ _ _ _ _

                We do live in interesting times!

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                  #18
                  Consider the politics of this:

                  Farmer discontent is growing and a responsible government knows this.

                  The Liberals are walking down the Green Mile. Dead men walking. You too Vader.

                  The CWB is looking is trying to save its Bacon (pun) by advancing their choice for CEO.

                  1) Public opinion is shifting
                  2) Liberals are useless with Borat
                  3) CWB needs a friend in government


                  What do you do?

                  Poke the Prime Minister in the eye.

                  Maybe the dumbest thing I've ever seen - and these are the people who are responsible for your bottom line in barley, wheat and durum.

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                    #19
                    1. Crop rotation
                    2. I grow what I and my land are good at,
                    BUT, it has to make a buck, so the margins have to be there.
                    3. I tend to avoid things that my land doesn’t like; crops that require chemicals that tend to carry over on my high pH, low organic matter knolls, etc. Messes up long term flexibility.

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                      #20
                      Meanwhile..... the convoy grows!!!!!!!!!877-554-2106.

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