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    #16
    The fundamental issue around CWB public comments is "preservation of the CWB". Whenever you read ANYTHING presented by the CWB, keep this in mind and all will make sense.

    It doesn't matter that Harper is factually correct - what matters is that his comments made the CWB look bad. The CWB's interest is in spinning it around so that they can draw positive light on themselves. First they say Harper was wrong but as evidence they talk about what the trade was paying for malt barley and then what the PRO is now for malt barley. They don't talk about why the barley market dropped like a dead cat following the judge's ruling.

    They talk about the market as if its some disembodied entity that the trade simply follows - prices simply emerge out of --- whatever. They totally miss the point that the market price is a function of many people making independent decisions, based on what is going on around them. There's a very good reason why the barley market in Western Canada dropped - because barley buyers dropped their prices. In writing up their release, did the CWB interview any barley traders asking why they dropped their prices? If they didn't, shame on them. If they did and didn't reflect their opinions in their release, shame on them.

    Also remember - the CWB was arguing against what they saw as Harper suggesting the ONLY reason the barley market went down was the return of the single desk. (Only a myopic idiot would believe that that was what Harper was trying to say - but I digress.) As evidence to back up their argument they talk about how the CWB price is higher now than earlier when the grain companies were setting prices. Are they suggesting this is because of the CWB? And maybe, if you're gullible, that its ONLY because of the CWB?

    As far as the CWB PR department is concerned, their job is done if you are left with the impression that if the price is going down, its not their fault, and if the price is going up, it is their fault.


    As a childhood hero of mine used to say "Good Grief!"

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      #17
      Chaffmeister,

      Well put... the further the CWB pushes their "Facts" the deeper the hole gets they are digging! When the reason for existence is the "Single Desk" instead of maximising grain grower returns... this result should not be unexpected!

      Interesting that Rod Flaman would pick the Liberal good ship Titanic... over the CWB's sinking Jolly Rodger! Seems like they both have the same Captain!

      Goodales Revenge isn't done yet... this is politics at its _ _ _ _ _

      We do live in interesting times!

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        #18
        Consider the politics of this:

        Farmer discontent is growing and a responsible government knows this.

        The Liberals are walking down the Green Mile. Dead men walking. You too Vader.

        The CWB is looking is trying to save its Bacon (pun) by advancing their choice for CEO.

        1) Public opinion is shifting
        2) Liberals are useless with Borat
        3) CWB needs a friend in government


        What do you do?

        Poke the Prime Minister in the eye.

        Maybe the dumbest thing I've ever seen - and these are the people who are responsible for your bottom line in barley, wheat and durum.

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          #19
          1. Crop rotation
          2. I grow what I and my land are good at,
          BUT, it has to make a buck, so the margins have to be there.
          3. I tend to avoid things that my land doesn’t like; crops that require chemicals that tend to carry over on my high pH, low organic matter knolls, etc. Messes up long term flexibility.

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            #20
            Meanwhile..... the convoy grows!!!!!!!!!877-554-2106.

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              #21
              Cause we got a little 'ole convoy
              Rockin through the night
              Yeah we got a little 'ole convoy
              Ain't she a beautiful sight
              C'mon and join our Convoy
              Ain't nothin gonna get in our way
              We gonna roll this truckin convoy 'cross the USA
              Convoy....Convoy.....

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                #22
                Harp is fibbing, cause he's a politico, and thats what they do, or at least waffling cause they don't know what to do. Am I right or am I right, read it and weep duds! The fate of the government rests on barley and wheat, heck a lot of the public doesn't know the difference between the two grains. Huge issue, I don't think so. The drone speech is just that, nothing, to get really, really, really excited about!

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                  #23
                  Continuous cropping, pour the fertilizer and chemicals on, grow only what the government says is a winner. Canola on canola, on canola, on canola. Clubroot be damned. Thats a gag problem, they can study and study and study and study the issue, till it goes away.

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                    #24
                    Sorry to deviate from the topic of the thread, but after reading enough of Burbert's posts I felt compelled to reply.I enjoy reading the input from contributors to the site but find myself embarassed to be a member of a group of producers who some may consider Burbert to be a spokesman for. Your total lack of class or decency toward other contributors makes me hope no one really believes you to be representative of the farm population.

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                      #25
                      Remember when Ritter was first elected to the CWB board of directors. He was elected as a dual marketer. Was he telling the truth then? Is he telling the truth today?

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                        #26
                        Burbert,

                        Being short on my wheat basis by $70/t is not a laughing matter... it is criminal. That $70/t is 100% of the profit on those acres... and the CWB is either keeping it for themselves... or more likely giving it to some multi-national instead of "designated area" growers.


                        Your beloved Borg is digging their grave... at warped speed!

                        If this is your wish/intent and true desire... so be it.

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                          #27
                          amen, I say from now on we don't even respond to burp. doing so obviously turns him on. (kind of reminds me of avery)

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                            #28
                            Incog......another call today.......guess it`s on for sure now!877-554-2106

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                              #29
                              Burbert - You want the truth?!

                              FACT: March 28th, the day the plebiscite results were announced - non-CWB feed barley in Alberta was $0.43/bu BELOW Montana feed barley (farmgate prices)

                              FACT: In the days and weeks following the announcement that the Conservatives would provide Choice, Alberta cash prices rose RELATIVE TO MONTANA prices to a high of about $0.76/bu ABOVE Montana prices.

                              FACT: Since the court challenge returned CWB "authority" over barley, Alberta cash prices have plummeted to a point where they are now $1.87/bu BELOW Montana prices.

                              The best way to cut through the noise of market factors is to look at important relationships - spreads - like this. Relative to Montana prices, Alberta prices dropped a total of $2.63/bu and the only reason is that a fundamental change occurred to inhibit the two markets from arbitraging.

                              Did the return of the CWB to the barley market have a negative impact on prices?

                              It's non-debatable. Of course it did.

                              Did Harper lie? Of course not.

                              Did Ritter lie? I don't think so. If you comment about something that you are ill-equipped to do so, or you don't understand what it is that you're talking about, you're not lying. You're just a silly idiot.

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                                #30
                                Did harper lie about income trusts?

                                Is it possible for harper to say one thing and do another?

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