KISS MY A**!

[cottonpicken]

Heard on the radio durum touched 20 bucks in minneapolis.

Hate to say i told you.....wait i dont.

BWAHHHHHHHH HAAHAAAA!!!!!!!

[charliep]

You are about a month behind on your information.

A lesson I have learned is never to brag until I have deposited the money in the bank. Not learned from marketing grain as a farmer but rather as a amature futures trader/speculator.

In the case of durum, I will ablige when I see a 1CWAD 13 total payments of over $750/tonne basis Vancouver/St. Lawrence.

[IAMTHEMOLE]

With our currency appreciaton maybe the best way to beat the CWB and access these great prices, is to sell our farms in Canada and buy in the US. Our buying power has never been better. Seems to be getting better everyday.
Snowbirds fly down to retire, why not fly down to grain farm. $20/bu for durum looks good compared to up here.

[charliep]

The last thread on $20/bu durum (delivered Minneapolis).

http://www.agri-ville.com/cgi-bin/forums/viewThread.cgi?1192126287

Will note you initiated, Cottonpicken. Will also not Incogito's questions left unanswered.

[cottonpicken]

I pulled up the thread.
The direction of flax?
I started a thread back around september 9th.Flax was around 9 bucks i believe.
Are you looking for me to call the top?

[Kodiak]

Cotton, I wish you'd only post when you're sober. Plus, you really lose any credibility you may have when you make claims that you, and only you, are a super-human predictor of future prices. If you were that clever you wouldn't be farming at Weyburn Saskatchewan. You'd be living in Grand Cayman or someplace similar, and you wouldn't be telling anyone what you know.

Now grow up.

[Kodiak]

Here's a doozie! Look how the NFU selectively uses only certain time periods to prove their ideological position that only the single desk can deliver high prices to farmers.

Somehow the CWB's superior knowledge and discipline is better for me than my own business and marketing plan for my own farm. They have the brazenness and arrogance to suggest there is no way a farmer would be disciplined enough to develop a marketing strategy that works to their advantage. It must be nice to be so sanctimoniously smug.

You know, the CWB/NFU are just like Cotton - they really believe they are smarter than everyone else - and happy (and obtuse enough) to tell every one too!






FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE OCTOBER 26, 2007



THE REAL CHOICE FOR WESTERN CANADIAN FARMERS



"The power of the single desk is magnified in times of tight supply. We are seeing that right now with the Canadian Wheat Board's (CWB) single desk selling of durum wheat on behalf of western Canadian farmers," said Stewart Wells, President of the National Farmers Union (NFU).

Wells was referring to the beneficial impact of a rising market in durum. The CWB released its latest Pool Return Outlook (PRO) October 25 which showed the estimated return for Number 1 Canadian Western Amber Durum (CWAD) with 12.5% protein is $12.71 per bushel. When freight and handling charges are deducted, the farm gate price is still over $11 per bushel.

"So this means that a Canadian farmer selling durum through the CWB in August, 2007 will receive about $11 a bushel at the farm gate for durum, while our US colleagues were selling their durum for less than $7," Wells stated. Despite rising prices in the US, most American farmers sold their grain in August at prices well below the peak. Even the North Dakota Wheat Commission admitted August 30 that very few farmers were able to sell their durum for even $8 per bushel [Farm and Ranch Guide, August 30, 2007].

"This huge difference is strictly a result of the single desk selling advantage, which provides independent market intelligence, orderly marketing, and price discrimination for Canadian grain. These are all advantages that the Harper government will destroy if they are successful in destroying the single desk selling advantages of the CWB."

Wells said there is a clear-cut choice facing farmers: "You can have $11 per bushel durum (while your US colleagues are selling for less than $7), OR you can let the Harper MPs destroy the CWB. There is no compromise position. Without the single desk there is no extra $4 per bushel."

Wells concluded the agenda of the Harper Government is to undermine barley marketing first, and then move to destroy the single desk selling advantage for wheat and durum.

- 30 –

[Fransisco]

Lets see... yesterday's cash prices compared to ... today's PRO's. Righhht.

And this is coming from the guys who keep saying it's not fair to compare current cash prices to the current PRO in the first place.

Well lets see how well the argument works in reverse then.

The closing price for milling spring wheat in Bottineau today was $8.03 Cad. The Pro for 13.5 CWRS wheat on March 22 was $4.48 per bushel with Manitoba deductions.

Wheat board sucks, yada, yada, yada open market rules yada,yada,yada.

The NFU sure thinks a lot of people are stupid.

[Fransisco]

Its not just your grain and your farm that they are trying to control and destroy. They're after your mind as well.

[Burbert]

The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Stand fast little chicken, cause tomorrow you were going to git your head cut off anyway! Franny. Framing is fun isn't it. Marketeers to the rescue, lets all take up a collection, or have a bake sale for the poor guy, keep him in business one more year. Yeah thats it, whinnning and snivelling don't git it done boy!

[FarmRanger]

Anything said by the NFU would usually be good for a laugh if there weren’t people out there that actually believe their BS. I like to play “spot the factual/logical error” with NFU releases and the above article is a good case in point.

Oh, and Burbert, if you think nastiness posted against those who point this out, will in any way defend the NFU position, I hate to tell ya, but it ain’t workin for ya.

[cottonpicken]

I took a shitload of flack when i posted my opinion on grain prices a while back.Hopefully i helped at least one person in computer land from selling grain to early.

I could really care less about my credibility with you kodiak and your right i'm done posting my "FREE" insights.

Good luck and watch out for the cwb boogey man or should i say cwb scapegoat.........of your own personal failures.

[FarmRanger]

Cotton, It's not really your insights that are the problem (those are pretty good actually); its the attitude. The title of this thread perfectly demonstrates that attitude.

[charliep]

Just to echo FarmRanger, you contribute a lot in terms of market outlook/opinion (a healthy thing). The fact that someone does something different than you do is not a bad - the decisions are base on their needs/market opinion which again is the sign of a good business environment. The title reminds me more a recreation hockey league than respect for your peers as proffessionals who all have to made different decisions based on their business.

Perhaps you are getting frustration as well. The $20/bu durum(I'll assume $18/bu delivered local elevator is irrelevant to western farmers except as it improves pool returns/the average price western Canadian farmers accept. These sales (both potential and actual) would have been included in the last PRO. The cash price today via fpc is about $10/bu - a $1.35 discount to the last PRO with cost reflecting CWB (not farmer risk). The 100 % EPO premium is $1.61/bu - even higher realizing you can participate in higher payments than the current PRO. If you can show me how a farm manager can sell for this price and deposit all the money, then we have a conversation.

[Kodiak]

I appreciate this discussion board for the opinions and perspectives that each of the participants is willing share. That could include yours Cotton, if, like Charlie and FarmRanger point out, it didn’t come with the childish behavior, the objectionable language, and the false bravado.

When you grow up or sober up, you may come to realize that your “insights” will be paid attention to a bit more - perhaps even respected. As of now I’m sure most readers, if they aren’t disgusted, just give your comments a brush off. You and your insights come as a package Cotton.

And please, if you really think you’ve saved someone from their own misfortune in the market - well that’s just another demonstration of the immature attitude.

Grow up.